Changing Rules Without Prior Notice

[greepleairport]

I appreciate that Charlie is trying to define what qualifies as media. If he wants to take the reins and stop absolute garbage from gracing the in/off season forum, I'm all for it.

But if you just decide to do that without prior notice, or without clarity on what you expect from writers, that's pretty discouraging. I didn't waste my time for one person to decide my work isn't worth anything that has otherwise, to date, met expectations for earning points.

If, moving forward, stuff like my article doesn't qualify because you think it's an official nomination or whatever else, I suggest people who have league responsibilities define what can and can't earn points before deciding something doesn't meet previously unspoken criteria. At a minimum, applying points and stating why, moving forward, you will not be administering points for similar content in the future. Maybe making a separate post announcing to the league what changes are in place moving forward so we can all be on the same page.

I suggest we put to a vote what does/doesn't qualify for media points, or at a minimum have the media coordinator outline what GMs can expect if a league coordinator decrees updated rules/changes.

If neither of the above happens, I will put out a referendum vote on whether or not the media coordinator executed his duties as expected, correctly, and whether or not he has earned points for doing his job, because right now I'll give you 3 guesses as to how I'm voting.

Feel free to discuss, but now you know what to expect from me, unequivocally. Feels nice to know where someone stands, doesn't it?

[AngryBanana]

Firstly, I will ignore the fact that you did not come to me in a one on one chat to express these concerns privately, instead opting for posting on different threads your concerns. While I maybe should have given you a heads up that I was going to give you no points for the writing, I thought that you would have understood my stance and been fine with it. I would have been happy to have a conversation with you about this if you were genuinely concerned about this. Secondly, I did not award you points because I thought that the article itself was not one that I felt was deemed to be an article. While I did mention it was more of an award nomination, which it did strike me as more of then anything, it was not awarded points because I did not feel it was truly a PBSL related written article. It was simply written as a means to embrace the article you had written previously. Ok, maybe that was the point and was satire, but there was really nothing to the article that I felt made it truly an article, placing it closer to Doug's "Is it the trade deadline" writings instead of to the other article that you wrote prior.

To address your concern about me doing this with no clarity of what standards are, there is in fact some standards set that I was following in the Media breakdown article that was written and we all look at currently. Link. In the article it states the following,

I expect that nearly every article contains some type of research.

However, I understand that based on the way that maybe the articles that have been previously judged, by maybe myself prior to this and other media coordinators, that this had fallen through the cracks some. As such, I have decided to allow for the rest of the season points to be distrubted based on what has been decided, by the community at large, to be the point standard of by words. I will then decide later this season, or in the offseason, on writing out a basis for what I think would be the new media standards in the suggestion box. I will award the points to all who I have not awarded points to at some point in the upcoming days, and will do so for the rest of the season given that I can not reward some writings and not others in the middle of the season.

[Black Superman]

I appreciate that Charlie is trying to define what qualifies as media. If he wants to take the reins and stop absolute garbage from gracing the in/off season forum, I'm all for it.

But if you just decide to do that without prior notice, or without clarity on what you expect from writers, that's pretty discouraging. I didn't waste my time for one person to decide my work isn't worth anything that has otherwise, to date, met expectations for earning points.

If, moving forward, stuff like my article doesn't qualify because you think it's an official nomination or whatever else, I suggest people who have league responsibilities define what can and can't earn points before deciding something doesn't meet previously unspoken criteria. At a minimum, applying points and stating why, moving forward, you will not be administering points for similar content in the future. Maybe making a separate post announcing to the league what changes are in place moving forward so we can all be on the same page.

I suggest we put to a vote what does/doesn't qualify for media points, or at a minimum have the media coordinator outline what GMs can expect if a league coordinator decrees updated rules/changes.

If neither of the above happens, I will put out a referendum vote on whether or not the media coordinator executed his duties as expected, correctly, and whether or not he has earned points for doing his job, because right now I'll give you 3 guesses as to how I'm voting.

Feel free to discuss, but now you know what to expect from me, unequivocally. Feels nice to know where someone stands, doesn't it?

Speak on it boo!!! This is exactly what I said to him as well in a private message. It's crazy that we didn't even discuss this between each other but both had the same view and opinion on it.

[Black Superman]

Firstly, I will ignore the fact that you did not come to me in a one on one chat to express these concerns privately, instead opting for posting on different threads your concerns. While I maybe should have given you a heads up that I was going to give you no points for the writing, I thought that you would have understood my stance and been fine with it. I would have been happy to have a conversation with you about this if you were genuinely concerned about this. Secondly, I did not award you points because I thought that the article itself was not one that I felt was deemed to be an article. While I did mention it was more of an award nomination, which it did strike me as more of then anything, it was not awarded points because I did not feel it was truly a PBSL related written article. It was simply written as a means to embrace the article you had written previously. Ok, maybe that was the point and was satire, but there was really nothing to the article that I felt made it truly an article, placing it closer to Doug's "Is it the trade deadline" writings instead of to the other article that you wrote prior.

To address your concern about me doing this with no clarity of what standards are, there is in fact some standards set that I was following in the Media breakdown article that was written and we all look at currently. Link. In the article it states the following,

I expect that nearly every article contains some type of research.

However, I understand that based on the way that maybe the articles that have been previously judged, by maybe myself prior to this and other media coordinators, that this had fallen through the cracks some. As such, I have decided to allow for the rest of the season points to be distrubted based on what has been decided, by the community at large, to be the point standard of by words. I will then decide later this season, or in the offseason, on writing out a basis for what I think would be the new media standards in the suggestion box. I will award the points to all who I have not awarded points to at some point in the upcoming days, and will do so for the rest of the season given that I can not reward some writings and not others in the middle of the season.

I would love for these to be written up and voted on. And not dictated by what you do decide on your own. So I'm 1000000% cool with what you want to decide, but then from there we should be allowed to vote on it. Is that fair?

[AngryBanana]

Firstly, I will ignore the fact that you did not come to me in a one on one chat to express these concerns privately, instead opting for posting on different threads your concerns. While I maybe should have given you a heads up that I was going to give you no points for the writing, I thought that you would have understood my stance and been fine with it. I would have been happy to have a conversation with you about this if you were genuinely concerned about this. Secondly, I did not award you points because I thought that the article itself was not one that I felt was deemed to be an article. While I did mention it was more of an award nomination, which it did strike me as more of then anything, it was not awarded points because I did not feel it was truly a PBSL related written article. It was simply written as a means to embrace the article you had written previously. Ok, maybe that was the point and was satire, but there was really nothing to the article that I felt made it truly an article, placing it closer to Doug's "Is it the trade deadline" writings instead of to the other article that you wrote prior.

To address your concern about me doing this with no clarity of what standards are, there is in fact some standards set that I was following in the Media breakdown article that was written and we all look at currently. Link. In the article it states the following,

I expect that nearly every article contains some type of research.

However, I understand that based on the way that maybe the articles that have been previously judged, by maybe myself prior to this and other media coordinators, that this had fallen through the cracks some. As such, I have decided to allow for the rest of the season points to be distrubted based on what has been decided, by the community at large, to be the point standard of by words. I will then decide later this season, or in the offseason, on writing out a basis for what I think would be the new media standards in the suggestion box. I will award the points to all who I have not awarded points to at some point in the upcoming days, and will do so for the rest of the season given that I can not reward some writings and not others in the middle of the season.

I would love for these to be written up and voted on. And not dictated by what you do decide on your own. So I'm 1000000% cool with what you want to decide, but then from there we should be allowed to vote on it. Is that fair?

While I am doing my best to decide what I believe to be articles, and what are not, and I am currently going off what I believed was currently established and not based on my own independent assessment of what is an article. Two articles in question that did not receive points initially should have been posted in other sections of the forum (either award noms or Commish's Corner) or one that should really not have been posted anywhere other then maybe the meme thread.I finally wish that others would understand the position I am in, especially from those in the group that either currently, or previously, worked positions in PBSL that have required them to make decisions or do things that others may not like.

[greepleairport]

Firstly, I will ignore the fact that you did not come to me in a one on one chat to express these concerns privately, instead opting for posting on different threads your concerns.

Thank you. I will do the same.

To address your concern about me doing this with no clarity of what standards are, there is in fact some standards set that I was following in the Media breakdown article that was written and we all look at currently. Link. In the article it states the following,

I expect that nearly every article contains some type of research.

This was literally all I needed. My apologies it came to the head that it did. I didn't see it going this way, but I didn't understand why my comments didn't get a response.