S69 Town Hall #3: Day 60 Imminent

[Black Superman]

Rules: 1 point if you give thoughtful answers which I will award after the timer ends for responses. The timer ends for responses at the moment the corresponding week's Sim is run.

Note: Use approximately 5 sentences as your bare minimum for 1 point. If you write 3 long, complex sentences, you'll still get a point. If you write 5 3 word sentences, you will not get a point. Don't @ me.

As we approach the day 60 point. Who's looking to trade? Who should be looking to trade? Who would you like to see process a trade right as the sim is processed? Who NEEDS a trade whether to drop cap or to get better. Answer 1 or 2 and explain.

[Mike Lowry]

First of all - I'm looking to trade!
Everybody on my roster is available.

I'll say that there is a large group tanking who would also love to trade if the contenders were willing.
From that group I would say that some of the pieces that should move are:
Josiah Blair - Grizz
EJ Liddell - Jazz
Walker and Looney - Hawks
Ware and Wemby - Bucks

The Lakers and Blazers are kind of wobblers that could trade their younger pieces to get better now or their older pieces for prospects.
Banchero and Chavez - Lakers (We all know he's keeping Safi)
Quick and Blaze - Blazers

The Suns had the unfortunate circumstance with Dr. Phil so I expect them to sell
Johnny Davis

Everyone else is firmly set in their rebuild or has the potential to trade and compete

Just from that list, if you need a big man you really have NO Excuse to not pull the trigger, except scared money.
Banchero and Davis are excellent backcourt pieces, and Rockwell is for poor men.

[garbageman]

QUICK HITS ON EVERY TEAM

Pistons - Great starting lineup. Definitely a competing season. Very little in terms of assets, but they need better depth all throughout the 2nd unit.

Spurs - After an 8-9 start, the Spurs should probably consider cutting cap and gaining points, but their team is still better than the record suggests. Wait for sim 3 to make any solid decisions.

Mavericks - The Mavs have the right idea in trying to trade Clark and Quinones to improve their team in a competing year. I might write more about the Ware deal and why I believe that shouldn't fly, but for now, they can see what that package would get them among other options.

Pelicans - The Pelicans don't have that strong a roster and have several mid guys on long contracts. They should be shopping Markham and Baba Miller to try to build the team around their rookie contract guys in Lee, Cotrill, and Bender

Celtics - After 2 sims, they're the only team in their division with a winning record. They could've swapped Alcindor for a top 10 player in the offseason, and they probably should've. Pairing it with Cruce's contract sooner than later is probably a good idea to maximize the limited number of seasons Clauer will be playing this well.

Nuggets - Kofi Blaq Jr. is on the block, and that's probably a good idea. The Nuggets are sorely lacking a floor general, and any chance at a deep run could be thwarted by an opponent with a great defense that can cause and exploit turnovers.

Jazz - I feel pretty strongly about this, but with Scottie S. Sanders, Booger Smith, and a lot of talented youth, at 6-10 the Jazz are probably an incredible candidate to land Ware...maybe not this season, but next offseason. As long as they keep Sanders and Booger Smith, grabbing Ware and maybe one more player depending on who's available, and resigning Lidell at a more reasonable contract price could vault them into instant contendership. Stock up on points now where you can get them!

Magic - It doesn't matter what I say here. The Magic are going to trade. And it might make sense and it might not. It's hard to tell when there's such an extreme amount of roster movement in a short period of time.

Cavs - Vassell and Isaac are great players, but the Cavs don't really have a great team around them, and that's why they're off to a slow start. They have Elton Harris, who they can move, but I think the bigger issue is that Darius Garland fell off a cliff, so they need to either figure out how to move on from him or how to set themselves up to compete again in a few years once that contract comes out.

Timberwolves - At this point, if I'm the Wolves, I'm going to rebuild. Might be a controversial take, but get a haul for Huo now since the Wolves haven't been able to really put a blockbuster team around him aside from Lenz and some serviceable bigs.

Hawks - This roster is all over the place in terms of age, and it's not winning. I'm putting Looney and Walker on the block and building around Campbell.

Bucks - Now that they're under the tax, there's no need to really seek out deals. Put Wemby, Boehm, and Lucas on the block because they're short term deals that could net future picks, but don't take on any non-rookie long term contracts that aren't any good. Wemby should still be good for a blue pot rookie (though not an ace one) and Lucas and Boehm could net some future draft capital (anything that's not guaranteed to be a shitty late 1st) or green pot rookie contracts.

Pacers - The Pacers are going to be a good team, but I don't think they have much to be able to get that much better. At some point, they could try moving Jones and Bridges, but pretty sure it's diminishing returns on a rebuild package from here on out.

Raptors - I know the Raptors are optimistic, but they had a rinse and repeat formula from last year by signing a few value contract blues when their core isn't quite ready yet. They also don't have anyone resembling a solid PG. Sell the win-now role players and try again next year with Brown, Fudge, and Dick one year closer. Maybe see what you can get for Jizzle James in the offseason.

Rockets - They're off to a hot start, but they don't really have assets to make a significant move. Be as good as you can off Sion, decline Baker's option, and try to strike big in UFA before resigning Baker to a more reasonable deal next season.

Grizzlies - The only team with even a modicum cap space...they're taking on bird year guys, so I can only assume they're going to offer them big contracts as salary pieces for win now deals. Might as well get as many points as you can now.

Kings - The Kings should probably be selling TMIII and even Ndefo, but they probably won't do anything beyond a late season meme dump, and I guess that's fine.

Warriors - The Dubs don't need to do much right now but keep tanking, but I don't want to insure all those players next season. I'd try and get rid of Ramos, JR Smith Jr, and Gilmore at some point to get win now folks, but I also see a conundrum with A'ja Wilson and Kevin Cross being on different timelines. Cross, Stewart, and Claxton are a formidable 3. Fill in the gaps around them next offseason, churn for points and picks now.

Trailblazers - They got Blaze on the block, where he probably should be, but this is a team like the Hawks that's all over the place. With the current roster construction around Quick and only one other tradeable win-now guy and one tradeable rookie contract in Naji Marshall, I'm worried about a winning team with cap space stealing Quick in UFA.

Nets - I guess per their block update, they're trying to trade, but the block looks more like a trash can, and two of the players aren't even guys on the Nets team.

Lakers - Banchero might be a tougher sell now that his athleticism took a big hit, but I feel like somehow between Banchero and Chavez, the Lakers might pull something off and get a better than expected return.

Suns - After Phil Smith's broken leg, the Suns probably are looking to cut salary, but I think they'll have enough points to cover since points are easy to come by and they have an incredible points differential even without him. I expect them to try to move Widener with a contract or two--if nobody wants to take Phil Smith on their books, Chris Bow and Anas Mahmoud are also salary pieces that could be moved.

Bobcats - The Bobcats are kind of mind bogglingly 10-8 after an auspicious first sim, but if I were them, I'd see what this team really needed and stand pat. Behanan and Funkhouser are playing very well, and they're in the same timeline. If the Cats can't stay on the winning side of things, it might be time to move Akins before it's too late.

Wizards - It's finally a Wizards team that, to me, looks as good on paper as their record shows. They're a team with a lot of needs, and the only thing I'm sure of is that I'd want to get under the apron.

Bulls - viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5445

Heat - The Heat just got out of tax jail, and as long as they decline team options when the time comes, they should have some pretty open books for next UFA. I'd open those books more by trying to trade Gary Rockwell. The Heat aren't close to competing and Rockwell's value is much higher for a team in immediate need of a PG (and there are a few of them) because theres's a negative chance that whoever has him picks up his team option in a few seasons.

[greepleairport]

garbageman, always a tough act to follow. i'm intrigued by the notion of moving all 3 of my SGs: Ramos, Smith Jr. and Gilmore. I can't move the latter 2 until after next RFA, but Ramos is very available.

Anyway, I am looking to trade. I suppose there is one notable piece on my roster that I haven't put on my block yet, but I'm willing to announce it here in this town hall:

A'JA WILSON IS AVAILABLE

I could package A'ja with Dwain Ramos for a nice upgrade at PG, preferably.

I would be knocking on @cashcab 's door for Herman Campbell, but I really think they should try to build around him and only move him if that window to build around him has passed. Since joining PBSL, the Hawks have had a tremendous run that could have led to a title, but slight hesitations here and there on some critical moves held him back. Also, the Hawks were quick to throw in the towel when things looked even slightly under expectations. I would like to see the Hawks get active now that Phil is gone. Thomas Walker should get heavy advertisement for that low of a contract, and Kevon Looney should be made availably, but at $100m, that might be dead in the water. Jaylen Forbes would be the next most valuable player to move, and after that? Tank, at least this year.

[LazyTitanSmash]

Cavs - Are in a weird place they need to add (by means of using up some of their points) to two pieces of a solid score.

Timberwolves, Pacers, Bucks - should start a full rebuild while there players still have a little value.

Suns - It doesn't look like is happening this season. They should move Johnny Davis and cut taxes. The have a young core and can easily be back in the hunt next year.

Rockets - Should be buyers (of whoever they can get)

Trailblazers - need to do everything to be good enough to keep Quick. If they start to have a losing season, they should move him for as much value as possible.

[K-100]

I think the Wizards should make a move to get under the apron. I'd move Curtis Rakes for cap relief and keep the young core together. Another team I'd make a move for is the Utah Jazz who could use an upgrade at C. I'd package Cortez Davis and Paul Barry for someone like Steeve Ho You Fat on the Raptors to pair with EJ Liddell and make a stronger defensive frontcourt. I think the Raptors would benefit from Barry's perimeter defense and more flash scoring off the bench.

[Black Superman]

So there are a few obvious choices here for trades.

Celtics need to figure something out because this roster build has not been good and they just resigned two stars to max deals expecting to take off. Obviously the TC hit doesn't help for ebbe. We're only two sims in so we'll see if some Gameplan adjustments help or if this middle of the road is their fate. The glen division is weak and alpha as a whole is weaker this year so they'll still probably make the playoffs.

Mavs still need to figure out a trade and focus on being good or risk losing scoot to the Lakers or bulls. Their issue is that they refuse to include any good assets in trade offers for great players. Something about their roster build also seems to be missing something, not sure what the ideal trade looks like for them, but anything to get out that terrible parker contract should be explored.

Spurs still need to drop salary but its tough given no teams with cap space....which brings me to my rant.

I really wish the kings were smarter going into the season and didn't blow a bunch of cap on guys not worth it. The kings should have been determined to be a buyer at trade deadline and would have surely been a bottom 5 team for the lottery. They would be coming into the new off-season with points, cap space, and a top 5 pick. Now they'll only be coming in with space. Just a disaster(imo) decision to buy up a bunch of mid guys after not submitting a RD1 UFA list. Such as life. It does feel weird that no one has cap space. Which makes the spurs situation harder and I understand just letting it ride at that point. Maybe pistons suffer an injury, and they get a finals trip. Lord knows they have the suns number and wouldn't lose to them even if God himself was on the roster.

[MexicanMamba]

Besides me??

Because, yo, come talk to your boys in Los Angeles if you need a great starter or some bench pieces.

I'll just drop a top 5, in no particular order:

Spurs- It's multiple tax seasons now, and Carlos definitely could use some youthful assets for Alvarado and/or Kozak so they can flip them quickly after a tax reset to go all-in on PeeWee and Master P. The diffcult part for him will be actually shedding salary while rebuilding because no one has enough cap space to bring in as a 3rd team to complete it.

Mavericks- This team is likely really close to title contention, but I can't say that I'm positive they'll pull themselves over that hump. I think they're at a key pivot moment though, because if they aren't great this season, Scoot and Kuminga hit UFA on the heels of a lot of awful seasons and a couple decent ones and that's a recipe for guys declining super maxes and going elsewhere for less money. They have a very specific idea of the type of player they'll trade for. Hopefully they find it.

Wolves- Honestly, it's the same sentiment as folks said above. Tax team, middling record. It's time to see what Huo can get. Maybe someone next on this list would work ...

Warriors- Yeah, I'd be checking on Aja+ for Huo yesterday just to see if I'd get any traction. Warriors are already a tax team, barring finding non-existent cap space to salary dump. So, why not test if Huo could be added to Cross then go into next off-season with the rest of your ammo to try building around them?

Cavs- You cannot pay these taxes with these results. I knew last season was their best shot since they had no assets to re-tool with. Got to do something though to put yourself in the best position to give your 2 studs real help in the coming offseasons.



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[Jedihero]

I'm still wet behind the ears when it comes to trading, barely even knowing what I need let alone everyone else in the league. Of course I would love to trade and get 1 more solid piece to my puzzle but I am cap locked. I also would really love to try and trade some cap away/cut a couple guys to get under the tax status, but I don't see that happening. The only guys I could probably get rid of are Ford and Kofi and they are integral to my team at the moment. I would love to get rid of Whitmore, but no one is going to touch that with a 10 foot pole, not with this many years left on him. I may just have to bite the bullet and pay Uncle Sam this year, but how much is going to be the question when it comes to deadline day.

[Xist2Inspire]

So I definitely need to get under the cap, as it doesn't make sense for me to willingly pay tax when I have the option to... y'know, not. So Rakes will probably be out. I think that there will be plenty of opportunities out there to cash in on guys, as this is a fairly open-looking season. I can see a lot of teams feeling like they're one or two tweaks away from taking control of their division.

[pennpanther1]

I'd like to see what I can get on the open market for some of my signings like Ho You Fat and Colton Johnson. I love the athleticism of my young core, but if anyone is interested in trading for one of them I'm willing to listen. This season seems like a particularly strange one from the trade POV because nobody has cap space to make a big splash. It will come down to some of the league's more savvy GMs making minor tweaks here and there to improve their squads. One team in particular I'm curious about is the Detroit Pistons. They have such a great starting lineup but if they are able to retool their bench with some swaps I think they are title favorites. Maybe some of my guys can head to Motown???

[AngryBanana]

It seems like everyone is open to trade in some form or fashion. Add me to the list! My main interest wouldn’t

Idk if I want to see it done, but I expect the Suns to make a deal. They been active in wanting to make a move since Smith got hurt. He needs to make a move to get that cap down obviously after that injury. I’d also like to see Doug make a move. Where he decides to say Frye it and blow up the team, like he does sometimes.


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[Eazy P]

Who's making trades? Not the Spurs unless there's something out there I like. I am willing to listen to some offers also. Not the offers you get when some knows you are in Tax jail. I could go either way Stay pat or cut the tax payment down a bit.

[jlmarines]

Except Isaac and Vessel, the entire roster for the Cavs is available. Unfortunately, PG Garland is having a rough season. PG Garland is the primary reason why the Cavs are struggling. The Cavs need to trade PG Garland and C Chief K for pts or trade picks.

[BigDaddyd8720]

Still being new, I’m trying to figure out how to value trades. I know my roster is faaaaar from complete and definitely need to look to making some moves. With only two guys older than 28 on the roster, we’re still a few years out from really competing as we develop the young guys.

Definitely have needs at multiple positions, just need to figure out the right pieces as well as trying to see who can take on some of my veteran guys. Maybe if a team is looking for depth in playoff push or looking for another B/B starter. Might have to go the route of trying to acquire draft picks and points instead of adding veteran leadership. Still in the learning process of all of this


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[greepleairport]

+1 to @BigDaddyd8720 @jlmarines @Eazy P @AngryBanana @pennpanther1 @Xist2Inspire @Jedihero @MexicanMamba @K-100 @LazyTitanSmash @greepleairport @Mike Lowry

+2 to @Black Superman
+1 @garbageman , and plus one extra point for giving the most intricate detailed reply in town hall history. thanks again for your insight, sir