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PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:43 pm
by IamQuailman
Something caught my eye earlier when I was updating players for their Mini-Rookie Training... For some players, their colors ratings changed despite the actual number (current and potential) staying the same. I noticed this on 3 players at first: Keyon Dooling (y/y to o/y), Trajan Langdon (y/g to o/y), and Raja Bell (y/g to y/b). Then another GM mentioned that Jason Terry had dropped from g/b to y/b, despite no change in ratings at all. (see below)
Before (end of 00-01 season, via archive):
After (current index):
Just doing a quick scroll through, I noticed Ruben Patterson also had the same thing happen (g/g to y/g without change to any current ratings).
This is completely new to me and everyone else (Wig included) who have been around running the game. I'm going to reach out to the developers about this as well with screenshots (of which I will take shortly). Again, their current and potential # rankings did NOT change, but the colors did. After looking into it, we have a theory that maybe the large influx of talent from this draft may have had some impact on how the ratings are color categorized... I.E. we had 12 new blue potential players and another 10 green potential guys coming in, with very little retiring. This would lead us to believe that the thresholds for the color ratings are FLUID in that it depends on how much talent currently exists in the league.
Again, please do not lose your cool or flip out, because I'm at a loss just like the rest of you may be. So hopefully we get some positive information from the developers regarding this issue and can at least get some clarification.
Sorry for the inconvenience and confusion, guys.
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:46 pm
by Conroy
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:51 pm
by Darth Vegito
Very very interesting. Can't recall seeing this either. If the colors are not a hard line in the sand...WOW what a Fryeing discovery. Like everything we once thought we knew about colors...out the window. Fryeing SIM league, you are truly a mysterious woman.
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:55 pm
by JNR
RAJA BELL ON THE BLOCK FOR PERNTS
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:55 pm
by 78#
I like this discovery if it holds true
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Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:57 pm
by IamQuailman
DarthVegito wrote:Very very interesting. Can't recall seeing this either. If the colors are not a hard line in the sand...WOW what a WIGGING discovery. Like everything we once thought we knew about colors...out the window. WIGGING SIM league, you are truly a mysterious woman.
Personally (and i know others do/may feel the same), I don't mind doing away with colors. It would be possible. Youd actually have to look at stats and ratings. Colors kinda make it easy to say "OH LOOK Y/G! YUCK" when that player may be 1 quickness rating point away from G/G. It's kinda silly.
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:01 pm
by 78#
Ruben deserves worse than y/g
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Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:14 pm
by Darth Vegito
IamQuailman wrote:DarthVegito wrote:Very very interesting. Can't recall seeing this either. If the colors are not a hard line in the sand...WOW what a WIGGING discovery. Like everything we once thought we knew about colors...out the window. WIGGING SIM league, you are truly a mysterious woman.
Personally (and i know others do/may feel the same), I don't mind doing away with colors. It would be possible. Youd actually have to look at stats and ratings. Colors kinda make it easy to say "OH LOOK Y/G! YUCK" when that player may be 1 quickness rating point away from G/G. It's kinda silly.
The people who only use colors to judge players deserve to get dicked though...Lol
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:52 pm
by ballsohard
GUISE, THE WEIRDEST THING HAPPENED. LARRY HUGHES AND AK47 TURNED INTO PURPLE POTENTIAL PLAYERS. DIDNT HAPPEN TO ANYONEELSE. DO NOT PANIC ALL IS OK.
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 4:07 pm
by Darth Vegito
ballsohard wrote:GUISE, THE WEIRDEST THING HAPPENED. LARRY HUGHES AND AK47 TURNED INTO PURPLE POTENTIAL PLAYERS. DIDNT HAPPEN TO ANYONEELSE. DO NOT PANIC ALL IS OK.
Let me guess...Gilbert and Redd turned purple too huh!?
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 4:08 pm
by ballsohard
DarthVegito wrote:ballsohard wrote:GUISE, THE WEIRDEST THING HAPPENED. LARRY HUGHES AND AK47 TURNED INTO PURPLE POTENTIAL PLAYERS. DIDNT HAPPEN TO ANYONEELSE. DO NOT PANIC ALL IS OK.
Let me guess...Gilbert and Redd turned purple too huh!?
The sonics turned the same color as their last #1 overall picks last name, it rhymes w DED
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Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:48 pm
by Conroy
It happened again with no new players entering league via draft. All my poor y/g players
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:52 pm
by LoCo89
Conroy wrote:It happened again with no new players entering league via draft. All my poor y/g players
which probably means it has to do with the signed talent
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:53 pm
by LoCo89
Also, relevant gif
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:58 pm
by Conroy
LoCo89 wrote:Conroy wrote:It happened again with no new players entering league via draft. All my poor y/g players
which probably means it has to do with the signed talent
None of this started happening until Darth came back I blame him
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:00 pm
by LoCo89
Conroy wrote:LoCo89 wrote:Conroy wrote:It happened again with no new players entering league via draft. All my poor y/g players
which probably means it has to do with the signed talent
None of this started happening until Darth came back I blame him
Getting on this train kinda late honestly. I blame him for all the shit that goes wrong in my life.
Fired? Chad
Pels swept? Chad
Dog throws up? Frye you Chad
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:12 pm
by Xist2Inspire
Conroy wrote:It happened again with no new players entering league via draft. All my poor y/g players
I'm looking at teams' pages, and wow. The auto-shuffling of player color rankings makes sense in theory, but boy, it's a bit frightening to see it in action.
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:18 pm
by NOLa.
Weird part is no one is going up in color. Just down
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:23 pm
by Xist2Inspire
NOLa. wrote:Weird part is no one is going up in color. Just down
It may be weeding out those guys who are undersized/too slow/lack certain skills at their position, and also culling players as more guys with skills similar or superior to theirs come in. The only way a good player would be rated better is if an influx of lesser talent came in, and that's not what's happening.
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:28 pm
by Darth Vegito
Conroy wrote:LoCo89 wrote:Conroy wrote:It happened again with no new players entering league via draft. All my poor y/g players
which probably means it has to do with the signed talent
None of this started happening until Darth came back I blame him
OR you could say it didn't start happening until I was no longer part of the shadow council. DUM DUM DUMMMMMMMM!
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:28 pm
by LoCo89
DarthVegito wrote:Conroy wrote:LoCo89 wrote:
which probably means it has to do with the signed talent
None of this started happening until Darth came back I blame him
OR you could say it didn't start happening until I was no longer part of the shadow council. DUM DUM DUMMMMMMMM!
Nah lets just go with the first one
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Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:42 pm
by Conroy
Bruce Conroy was unaffected...heart of a champion
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:01 pm
by Darth Vegito
I think there needs to be a serious conversation about this. These player's values are being destroyed by this. It's costing some teams(the teams that are being hit the hardest) loads of value. No one obviously understand it or knows why it's happening. Which is fine, but now what? Since the actual numbers aren't being affected and it's happening every damn index update now, I think we should seriously consider eliminating the colors all together. This would make this problem irrelevant. And no one loses value. But this needs discussion. It's happening too often at this point.
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:02 pm
by NOLa.
Doug, is that you?!?
Re: PLEASE READ: Color Rating Fluctuations
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:47 pm
by Inner_GI
This is affecting trade vlue even though the player ratings don't change. Time for colors to go away.
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