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Cuts during UFA
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 7:45 pm
by IamQuailman
I think there needs to be an official ruling on how to handle players cut during UFA.
Why? Players cut inbetween rounds may not be available in nodes for GMs who submit bids via node (see the slew of bulls bigs cut and signed and andre roberson).
DEFINITIONS:
DURING UFA - time after RFA completion and before UFA Round 3 Bid deadline
Proposed options:
-no cuts allowed during UFA
-cuts allowed during UFA
If cuts allowed:
-players unavailable for bidding until Free For Fall FA
-players unavailable until next round of UFA (i.e. Player A is cut after RFA complete, hes available for round 2 bidding and forward; player b is cut after round 1 sim, he is available for round 3 sim. Player cut after round 2, available only for FFA)
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Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:03 pm
by ballsohard
Do we have an example ?
Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:12 pm
by IamQuailman
ballsohard wrote:Do we have an example ?
Of what? People getting cut and signed? Look at the players signed during Round 1 this offseason (reggie evans, andre roberson, etc). They were signed in round 2. People with node bidding could not make offers to those players cut after round 1 since nodes were updated. People who pm could throw them on the list and sign.
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Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:33 pm
by kucoach7
I like this suggestion but I signed Powe even though I submitted via FTP by sending a supplemental PM.
Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:39 pm
by fearthebrow
Agreed. I was thinking the same thing and even though I submit via PM, I assumed those players the Bulls cut would not be available until free for all. Clarification is needed.
Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:26 pm
by ballsohard
IamQuailman wrote:ballsohard wrote:Do we have an example ?
Of what? People getting cut and signed? Look at the players signed during Round 1 this offseason (reggie evans, andre roberson, etc). They were signed in round 2. People with node bidding could not make offers to those players cut after round 1 since nodes were updated. People who pm could throw them on the list and sign.
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People with nodes can send a list for just these guys as well. Just another option to think about ..
Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:34 pm
by IamQuailman
fearthebrow wrote:Agreed. I was thinking the same thing and even though I submit via PM, I assumed those players the Bulls cut would not be available until free for all. Clarification is needed.
Same, and i think thats why we just need that official rule, whatever it may be. I think this came up before with conroy in a different thread... just never got addressed.
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Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 7:50 am
by Inner_GI
Sending a PM in addition to using the node kind of defeats the purpose of the node, in my opinion. I say you just delay bids on recently cut players 1 round. If a player is cut after round 1, they will be available in round 3. The exception would be cuts in round 3. All players should be available to the FFA.
Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:04 pm
by ballsohard
Or just don't put in bids for guys you don't want and no cuts until after r3, lots of options
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Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:12 pm
by IamQuailman
I understand that logic, but at the same time, i disagree. I think we all have been in the situation where we be happy with any 1 of the 3 of bids submitted, but all three signed. If we had a day by day sim, we could pull bids as a need is filled (and im not asking for that). But since we sim in chunks, i think some of that flexibility should be allowed.
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Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 2:33 pm
by ballsohard
IamQuailman wrote:I understand that logic, but at the same time, i disagree. I think we all have been in the situation where we be happy with any 1 of the 3 of bids submitted, but all three signed. If we had a day by day sim, we could pull bids as a need is filled (and im not asking for that). But since we sim in chunks, i think some of that flexibility should be allowed.
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Meh it's min players , I don't really think it's a big problem nor a big risk but once we flesh it out I'll just vote one way.. good suggestion !
Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 2:59 pm
by IamQuailman
ballsohard wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 2:33 pm
IamQuailman wrote:I understand that logic, but at the same time, i disagree. I think we all have been in the situation where we be happy with any 1 of the 3 of bids submitted, but all three signed. If we had a day by day sim, we could pull bids as a need is filled (and im not asking for that). But since we sim in chunks, i think some of that flexibility should be allowed.
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Meh it's min players , I don't really think it's a big problem nor a big risk but once we flesh it out I'll just vote one way.. good suggestion !
Yea but if it eats into your cap space, then that could be a problem. That's the only big issue I see with not allowing cuts.
Re: Cuts during UFA
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 3:17 pm
by ballsohard
IamQuailman wrote:ballsohard wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 2:33 pm
IamQuailman wrote:I understand that logic, but at the same time, i disagree. I think we all have been in the situation where we be happy with any 1 of the 3 of bids submitted, but all three signed. If we had a day by day sim, we could pull bids as a need is filled (and im not asking for that). But since we sim in chunks, i think some of that flexibility should be allowed.
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Meh it's min players , I don't really think it's a big problem nor a big risk but once we flesh it out I'll just vote one way.. good suggestion !
Yea but if it eats into your cap space, then that could be a problem. That's the only big issue I see with not allowing cuts.
Oh yeah for sure I mean in general