Around the Horn Trade Deadline

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Tony Reali: Welcome to around the Horn the show of 'Competitive Banter' and I'm Toni Reali your host. Today We have JNR, Ian Quailman, InnerGi, and Nola. Welcome gentlemen.

Tony Reali: They have new numbers, they have new teams, and they're all in the championship hunt. Which move was most impactful? Afflalo to the Warriors, Green to the Bucks, or Randolph to the Spurs?


JNR: +2
Iamquailman: +3
Nola:
InnerGI:
Balls: -1

[JNR]

JNR: It's got to be Afflalo to the Warriors. The Warriors were the best team of the three before the trades, they took their biggest strength and made it bigger. The Bucks and the Spurs will probably both get bigger, but they had a ways to go. But when you take a 43% shooter and add him to a team that's already shooting 41% from deep, beautiful things are going to happen Tony.

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[IamQuailman]

Ian Quailmen: Personal bias aside, I think the Spurs acquiring Randolph is a huge move. Probably the biggest. He's basically the Scola replacement that GM Eazy had been missing this season. Not to say that Josh Smith wasn't getting the job done, but part of what made the Spurs so lethal was J-Smoove's versatility. And when he was pretty much stuck at playing the 4 out of necessity, he lost that part of his game's strength. But now with Randolph there, Eazy can shift players according to matchups and gameplan, something that will be critical come playoff time. He better scour the waiver wire for some help though.

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[JNR]

JNR: I think the Spurs suffered because of your last point, Ian. They sent out 5 players to get 1. The Bucks got Green in a 1 for 1 swap, and obviously the Warriors got more players. But in a league where depth is important, it really looks as if the Spurs handcuffed themselves for this season only. It will work out for them long term, but as far as immediate championship impact, I say Z-No to Z-Bo.

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[IamQuailman]

Ian Quailmen: While that's true, most of his depth was average role players at best. Plenty of those floating around as free agents.

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Only needs to find a few. With the Warriors, they brought in another sharpshooter. But we know how the old saying goes... "Defense wins championships". Outside of Curry, who defends the perimeter? Even Curry is just above average, and that's me being generous. Afflalo was a defensive sieve that at least had Westbrook and Smith to cover for his deficiencies.

[Inner_GI]

INNER_GI: It's the Bucks. The Bucks have championship dreams, but their window isn't 2 inches tall like the Spurs or Warriors. The addition of Green changes the culture on that Bucks roster, and gives them a extremely versatile wing down the road to fit any roster makeup the Bucks finally settle on(if they ever settle). Also, the dude is a serious hot head and broke Kanter's arm. That's IMPACT.


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Ian Quailmen: While that's true, most of his depth was average role players at best. Plenty of those floating around as free agents.

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Only needs to find a few. With the Warriors, they brought in another sharpshooter. But we know how the old saying goes... "Defense wins championships". Outside of Curry, who defends the perimeter? Even Curry is just above average, and that's me being generous. Afflalo was a defensive sieve that at least had Westbrook and Smith to cover for his deficiencies.

Tony Reali: Are you saying that championship level depth is availible in the current list of Free Agents?

[Inner_GI]

Inner_GI: With that logic, no wonder Ian Quailmen hasn't won a ring in SLOE. Free Agents after Sim 8 are championship level depth. News to me.

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[IamQuailman]

Ian Quailmen: No, you silly geese. There are some ok role players that can be found just after trade deadline. Those that were cap casualties, salary savers, tax torpedos, etc. I don't want to name names, but I see a few guys that could easily help a few squads right now who might be looking for a player to fil a 10 minute void.

[NOLa.]

NOLa.: Afflalo to the Warriors. Anyone who thinks Bucks will be in the championship hunt this season probably believes Kanter actually was the better player to start at center his rookie season. Warriors with Afflalo makes sense to me, because I believe it had the highest negative impact on the Warriors. Already losing 3 games to the Kings this season and not being able to cushion a lead, this was probably a desperation move. However, Randolph I felt was perfect for the Warriors this season. Clippers took a step back, and you have a great PF in a conference with the likes of Love, Smith, Griffin, and others. I don't think you needed another 3 point specialist but I surely am happy you traded away your 2nd best player for a role guy to sit behind Curry.

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Toni Reali: He already played and didn't sit on the bench, Sacto homerism in full effect.

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[IamQuailman]

Ian Quailmen: Interesting that NOLa picks the team that easily can be used as a platform to discuss how the Kings are better. Not shocked at all.


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[JNR]

JNR: Sit behind Curry? The Warriors were starting Francisco Garcia at small forward. Afflalo will play a prominent role in the starting lineup, and even if they don't retake the Pacific, they'll be a force in the playoffs. Remember the only real advantage the Phoenix Suns had over everyone in the playoffs that 2010 season? 3 Point Shooting. Remember the results of that season?


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Tony Reali: From championship contenders to the teams at the bottom of the cellars, A few teams towards the bottom of the leagues standings made moves, which hurt their future the most?

[NOLa.]

NOLa.: Yes, the Suns beat a no perimeter defense Wolves, a no perimeter defense Sonics, a no perimeter defense Spurs, and a weak no perimeter defense Hawks. Times have changed and the rest of the league followed by grabbing guys who can shoot from 3, but the smart GMs got guys that can defend the 3. Afflalo will be a starter, he'll just have to watch up close as Curry tries to carry the Warriors.


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[JNR]

JNR: It's the Lakers without question. Sure, the Knicks got a guy a few years older than their core, but they aren't going to be cap strapped. Plus Lin is...well, good. The Lakers now have CJ Miles sitting on the bench with a broken leg, making $148,255,515. And you have Andrew Bynum, more concerned with bowling and hairdos than putting in training camp work, making $109,116,060. Even when the Lakers get nice young players, they won't be able to build a team around them until those contracts expire, and even then, are you going to want to be a tax team while finishing bottom 5 every year? The Lakers are close to that.

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[IamQuailman]

Ian Quailmen: Lakers for sure. They will have 4 full seasons of 2 maxes that won't have any future with their team. Sure their squad won't be good, and that almost definitely lands them top spots in the lotto. BUT cap space will be an issue, and just when Bynum's max falls off, it gets replaced with Giannis's max. And then when Miles' max falls off, it gets replaced with 2014 1st round pick's max. When is he going to find the time to take a stab at those RFAs and UFAs that could really help round out the squad? Lakers fans just need to hope that those draft picks are homeruns.

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[IamQuailman]

Ian Quailmen: Knicks on the other hand got a starting Point Guard in Lin and a player that will grow with the team. He's a little older, like JNR mentioned, but he's got everything you want in a 2-way PG. Knicks look to be in great shape. Just needs to hope that the benefits of the Lin acquisition doesn't kick in until next season.

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[NOLa.]

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Toni Reali: He already played and didn't sit on the bench, Sacto homerism in full effect.

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Did I say he was coming off the bench? No, I said he had to sit behind Curry.

You've just been MUTED. -1, Toni.





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[Inner_GI]

Inner_GI: How are the Knicks even in this conversation? Their future only improved. There is a serious lack of quality PGs in this league, and no PG prospects in college for 2 years. The Knicks gave up a very talented one way player at the wing position where they have quality already waiting in the wings (oh yea). The Knicks could be in a position to have a highly rated PG with 3-5 very valuable rookie contracts than can contribute. Not to mention, the Knicks are still loaded with draft picks. I think the Knicks improved their future.

The Lakers look like a team that doesn't want to pay attention to SLOE for 8 months.

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[NOLa.]

NOLa.: Gonna have to say Frye it and go against the grain. Knocks are worse off now. They had it all at the beginning of the season: players that grew in TC, two lotto picks that originally looked like #1 & 2, and cap. Now it looks a little rushed. Lin is a good player, but he needs to be paid soon, and that's a max level guy. Wolves have Mavs free stuff just to give them free stuff I guess? So now, those two top picks all the sudden look like they fall out of the Top 5. You need a star in this league, and I think the Knicks rushed and made Lin their star. I don't think he's made for that.


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[IamQuailman]

Ian Quailmen: Quite a few RFAs should've been max level players, but that didn't happen this past year. Always a chance that the player re-signs at a discount. That said, Lin is so good at quite a bit, seems like a great leader for a young squad that's bound to add some additional weapons this upcoming draft.
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[NickMalone77]

Thank you Scott, Raby, Tani, Logan, & Doug, for your media contribution. You may claim +5 for your role in this article if you haven't hit your media cap limit of +10.


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[Inner_GI]

Super sad this died.

[NOLa.]

Thank you Scott, Raby, Tani, Logan, & Doug, for your media contribution. You may claim +5 for your role in this article if you haven't hit your media cap limit of +10.

Nick the cap is 15. I swear to gawd I will wrek u if u double down on this.


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[ballsohard]

Ian Quailmen: Quite a few RFAs should've been max level players, but that didn't happen this past year. Always a chance that the player re-signs at a discount. That said, Lin is so good at quite a bit, seems like a great leader for a young squad that's bound to add some additional weapons this upcoming draft.
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:Toni Reali: Wait is it all RFas get maxed or not, a minute ago you said this:

BUT cap space will be an issue, and just when Bynum's max falls off, it gets replaced with Giannis's max. And then when Miles' max falls off, it gets replaced with 2014 1st round pick's max.