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Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:55 am
by TrayWithAnA
Rockets send
Jay Williams
Lakers send
Harrington
Baxter
4 points
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Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:25 am
by 78#
Rockets accept
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Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:46 am
by TrayWithAnA
I imagine that since Jay is a min this should process. If not, we have agreed to a second trade that matches salary. Let me know.
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Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:47 am
by TheSyndicate
I think you have to match salary...
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:57 am
by TrayWithAnA
It will be Harrington and Baxter that get added if it doesn't go through. I'll edit the original post and get 78 to reaccept if needed.
The reason I want to try this first is I'm not sure if Harrington and Baxter have been on my roster for 60 days. May need some clarification on that from an admin
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Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:01 am
by TheSyndicate
TrayWithAnA wrote:It will be Harrington and Baxter that get added if it doesn't go through. I'll edit the original post and get 78 to reaccept if needed.
The reason I want to try this first is I'm not sure if Harrington and Baxter have been on my roster for 60 days. May need some clarification on that from an admin
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If you acquired them in offseason, then you're good.
I'd defer to an admin if you need to match salary, but I do believe so.
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:03 am
by TrayWithAnA
TrayWithAnA wrote:Rockets send
Jay Williams
Lakers send
Harrington
Baxter
4 points
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Reworked to include the salary. I was cutting them anyway.
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:55 am
by 78#
Re-accepted
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:35 am
by WigNosy
Not processed.
Jay Williams' salary is $1,068,170.
Harrington's salary is $843,292. Baxter's salary is $805,812. Total: $1,649,104
This trade would put the Rockets over the salary cap so salaries must match to within 125% of the lower salary (in this case, $1,068,170). Harrington and Baxter's combined salaries are 154% of Williams' salary so this trade is illegal.
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:38 am
by WigNosy
TrayWithAnA wrote:The reason I want to try this first is I'm not sure if Harrington and Baxter have been on my roster for 60 days. May need some clarification on that from an admin
Most seasons, free-for-all free agency happens on an in-game date that will allow players to be traded December 15th. This year it happened super late in-game (October 19th) so 60 days won't pass until December 17th. That is just a scheduling quirk and the reason we changed to half-month sims was specificially to avoid this problem.
Also, the real NBA rules say that off-season acquisitions, regardless of when they signed, are able to be traded December 15th.
That is the rule we are going with here as well. FFA signings can be traded after Sim 3 (ends December 15th). Note some other trades already processed were FFA signings as well and were processed for the same reason.
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:42 am
by TrayWithAnA
WigNosy wrote:Not processed.
Jay Williams' salary is $1,068,170.
Harrington's salary is $843,292. Baxter's salary is $805,812. Total: $1,649,104
This trade would put the Rockets over the salary cap so salaries must match to within 125% of the lower salary (in this case, $1,068,170). Harrington and Baxter's combined salaries are 154% of Williams' salary so this trade is illegal.
Would Harrington for Williams work?
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Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:43 am
by WigNosy
TrayWithAnA wrote:WigNosy wrote:Not processed.
Jay Williams' salary is $1,068,170.
Harrington's salary is $843,292. Baxter's salary is $805,812. Total: $1,649,104
This trade would put the Rockets over the salary cap so salaries must match to within 125% of the lower salary (in this case, $1,068,170). Harrington and Baxter's combined salaries are 154% of Williams' salary so this trade is illegal.
Would Harrington for Williams work?
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Sorry but no. Salaries are 127% not 125%.
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:43 am
by TrayWithAnA
WigNosy wrote:TrayWithAnA wrote:The reason I want to try this first is I'm not sure if Harrington and Baxter have been on my roster for 60 days. May need some clarification on that from an admin
Most seasons, free-for-all free agency happens on an in-game date that will allow players to be traded December 15th. This year it happened super late in-game (October 19th) so 60 days won't pass until December 17th. That is just a scheduling quirk and the reason we changed to half-month sims was specificially to avoid this problem.
Also, the real NBA rules say that off-season acquisitions, regardless of when they signed, are able to be traded December 15th.
That is the rule we are going with here as well. FFA signings can be traded after Sim 3 (ends December 15th). Note some other trades already processed were FFA signings as well and were processed for the same reason.
Glad this was clarified. Thanks!!
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Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:43 am
by 78#
I'm ok with doing the trade without Baxter and Harrington.
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:44 am
by WigNosy
78# wrote:I'm ok with doing the trade without Baxter and Harrington.
The Lakers are over the cap and cannot take on additional salary via trade without sending out players whose salary is close enough to match.
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:44 am
by 78#
WigNosy wrote:78# wrote:I'm ok with doing the trade without Baxter and Harrington.
The Lakers are over the cap and cannot take on additional salary via trade.
noted
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:45 am
by TrayWithAnA
Didn't realize 78 was over the salary cap. I'll figure out a way before tomorrow.
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Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:45 am
by WigNosy
TrayWithAnA wrote:Didn't realize 78 was over the salary cap. I'll figure out a way before tomorrow.
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No worries. This one of those times I have to play pedantic ogre and enforce the rules. :p
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:46 am
by 78#
Am I still over the cap after trading Iverson?
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:48 am
by TrayWithAnA
78# wrote:Am I still over the cap after trading Iverson?
True. AI is still on his roster right now. That should allow this to move through once AI is off the roster.
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Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:52 am
by 78#
I can always cut Antoine Walker as well; He's a bum
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:57 am
by 78#
Antoine Walker was released as well; The trade with Harrington and Baxter should work now.
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:58 am
by TrayWithAnA
This is fun
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Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:59 am
by Inner_GI
all over a scrub and 4 points. I admire the dedication. lol
Re: Lakers/Rockets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:15 pm
by TrayWithAnA
Inner_GI wrote:all over a scrub and 4 points. I admire the dedication. lol
It's all because I traded House instead of these other FFA signings mainly because I didn't catch onto the timeline adjustment making them available for trade now and not next sim.
To be fair, Harrington is completely incapable of running the second unit. I need someone with some reasonable PG abilities. Williams is high-60s at the four categories that matter - HND, PAS, PRD, STL.
Plus, I'm broke.