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S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:29 am
by Mike Lowry
Special request from the Commish:
What changes would you like to see as far as rule changes?
If you don't have any suggestions about rule changes, take a position on any of the controversial rule changes or implementations of the past few seasons.
When did things make, or not make, sense?

Rules: 1 point if you give thoughtful answers, which I will award after the timer ends for responses. The timer ends for responses at the moment the corresponding week's Sim is run.

Note: Use approximately 5 sentences as your bare minimum for 1 point. If you write 3 long, complex sentences, you'll still get a point. If you write 5, 3 word sentences, you will not get a point. Don't @ me.

Due: Saturday Nov 2nd 11:59 pm.

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:40 am
by greepleairport
What changes would you like to see as far as rule changes?
I don't have anything realistic, but I do have a crazy idea. We've seen a couple broken legs recently that decimated teams and their chances at a successful season. What if we give that GM an opportunity to spend, I don't know, 50 points to buy a re-sim? Wouldn't that be nuts? I don't mind a wild ass curveball every once in a while lol

If you don't have any suggestions about rule changes, take a position on any of the controversial rule changes or implementations of the past few seasons.
I'm glad we still have RFA, and even though I benefitted from the removal of the 1 yr no trade clause on RFA signees, I don't love it. I think the 1 yr rule really makes people think about how to invest in their team's future. I'm in absolute hell over the max deals Nick and Breanna got in RFA 2 seasons ago. They weren't good enough yet, but I chose to pay to get to where I am now. If I can manage my tax bill over the next 5 years, though, I think it will have demonstrated serious GM skills to keep one of the best front courts in PBSL together and winning games (and hopefully rings).

When did things make, or not make, sense?
I don't want to re-hash anything, but I think the abrupt switch in distributing points for media was tough. The fallout - which I helped create - might create a void for the role of media coordinator next season. That's a shame considering the lengths Charlie went to 1.) defend himself and 2.) re-set an appropriate precedent. He did the hard work and I only wish I hadn't gone so hard in the paint on him. I think his ability to do the job would have been MUCH, much easier moving forward.

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:02 pm
by pennpanther1
What changes would you like to see as far as rule changes?
I like greepleairport's suggestion about injuries so maybe be have an option to train a player's injury rating during the preseason could help prevent those kind of catastrophic injuries. I'd also like if the upcoming draft class got announced a bit earlier in the season. I think if GMs see tanking for someone worthwhile as an incentive they will be more active during the trade deadline.

If you don't have any suggestions about rule changes, take a position on any of the controversial rule changes or implementations of the past few seasons.
I really like expanding the playoffs to 8 teams. The draft lottery at 10 teams is a good, nice number.

When did things make, or not make, sense?
The media controversy got out of hand. I get everybody wants points for their team goals but it got ridiculous when people were just trolling the forum with nonsense and then got butthurt when people called them out. I guess a little drama never killed nobody though.

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:08 pm
by garbageman
What changes would you like to see as far as rule changes?

I think we need to set better guidelines for jobs as highlighted by Charlie's tenure as Media Coordinator. But I think we need to better define the job-holder's leeway in performing their jobs. My basic feeling is that if a coordinator's decision only affects the coordinator's area, they should be able to make that decision. Otherwise, it should need commissioner/league approval.

One example of this using media coordinator is that if the media coordinator decided that instead of 25 points as a media cap, there would be no media cap, that would be something that shouldn't fly as it would allow infinite points grabbing and have implications on the sim economy as a whole.

However guidelines as to what counts as an article and where the points distribution lies within that 25 points can be sole discretion of the media coordinator.

I feel like we could bring back the volunteer election coordinator if there was enough interest so that if the league doesn't like how someone's running a job, someone else can volunteer for it and the league can vote for whoever they think will do the better job. I also think that we need to spread the jobs around more if there are enough volunteers so that everyone has an opportunity to put in work and earn points if they want it instead of leaving jobs manned by one person until the incumbent gets sick of it. Unfortunately, I don't think we're at that point as it took a hell of a long time for greeple to find someone else to coordinate media, and lo and behold, he is coordinating media again.

If you don't have any suggestions about rule changes, take a position on any of the controversial rule changes or implementations of the past few seasons.

I think 8 playoff teams per conference isn't as cool as I expected it. I'd go back to 7. I also stand strong that we should bring back auto-pilot rules in the playoffs. They were simple, and they kept things moving.

When did things make, or not make, sense?

Never or always.

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:16 pm
by Black Superman
I am basically the originator of this question so I don't really have a request. But I am a high payroll team so I will creatively offer up some things to still earn my point.

1. Cupid Shuffle We are going to be doing an off-season division shuffle this season. I think we've been in our current divisions for 4 seasons. I think the previous regime might have done every 5 years? But I'm not sure if that was an actual schedule that was maintained flawlessly, or if it was some unspoken rule. We're going to have a big break between off-season and when the season starts in real life time, so I think the division shuffle will be extremely refreshing for folks when we come back. There was talks of doing a structured division break where it was... Charlies angels, Founding Fathers, Joshua's Tree, and Everybody else. We may have to tweak things to make everyone fit in the divisions, but for the most part that is the format we will try and use.

2. I'm still curious to hear about any tax changes folks have. Especially the profit sharing system. Proposals definitely have to make sense and can't be used to game the system.

3. RFA changes are not happening anymore obviously. And you all can thank greeple for that. I know I do! It was such a relief off my plate last season so I am thankful he's taken that over.

4. I think the 15 point trade increase has been a really successful implementation. Garbageman originally said to make no limit but he's sometimes sarcastic and cynical. So I didn't go the extreme route but given the increase of point earning opportunities, I did think 15 felt safe. I think so far, it's been a very well done change. Thanks Josh, kinda 😉

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:45 pm
by garbageman
Black Superman wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:16 pm 4. I think the 15 point trade increase has been a really successful implementation. Garbageman originally said to make no limit but he's sometimes sarcastic and cynical. So I didn't go the extreme route but given the increase of point earning opportunities, I did think 15 felt safe. I think so far, it's been a very well done change. Thanks Josh, kinda 😉
I think conceptually no limit would be great, but it would make the game more difficult for those that are inexperienced and are not sure how valuable points are yet. It'd also make getting out of tax jail easier since tax prisoners like Doug would probably be able to sell players for extreme amounts of points (thinking like, 50) instead of 15 points + some other kind of package. I don't think any of that would be necessarily bad, but it would be a much more uncharted change than simply increasing 10->15 was.

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:32 pm
by Jedihero
Yea the Media coordinator rules need to be established, and in doing so I would reiterate my suggestion to not have a rule where the articles need to be league related, but can be anything people want to write about.

I do enjoy the new 15 point trade cap, I think that has helped a lot. I'm also indifferent on the 8 team playoff teams, I wouldn't mind making it a bit harder and giving the 1 seed that deserved bye, at the very least that is 4 games where a title contender could have a freak injury that would derail their playoff run.

Another rule I would like to see if getting rid of 2nd round picks in general. I know they are simmed anyway, but as far as I've been here there's usually not anyone good that will fall to the 2nd and almost everyone immediately cuts them anyway.

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:38 pm
by K-100
What changes would you like to see as far as rule changes?
I do not have any suggestions.

If you don't have any suggestions about rule changes, take a position on any of the controversial rule changes or implementations of the past few seasons.
I think the decision to stop purple training was a bad one because it came out of nowhere. I deliberately tanked for several seasons with the strategy to train these guys and that plan went awry with no warning. I've adjusted and moved on (I think), but I just did not see the point in stopping that option. Who cares if the league is flooded with fake purples? If a GM gets some satisfaction from training their dudes into superstardom, go for it.

When did things make, or not make, sense?
The last few seasons seem more dramatic than usual which has been a buzzkill. Hopefully the good vibes come back soon.

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:35 pm
by BigDaddyd8720
Purple training: I get the reasoning behind it, But I also would like to see this opened up again. At the very least, allow someone to train up to Blue/purple. It does suck to have such a young player reach purple potential through TC and then not be able to do anything. so if they are G/P or even Y/P, we have to sit around and wait for however many seasons for their currents to catch up. Maybe with the stop to training purples, if we put paid TC before regular TC? That way people can train currents on players that may make the jump soon to give them a bigger boost.

I agree that the articles rules need to be a bit more clear (clearer?). Just being able to type something up and posting it shouldn't count. There should be some set guidelines. Maybe with the extra time this offseason, we, as a league, can come to some agreement. I would be happy to help out with that as well.

I know some people have talked about the playoff format and I personally like the 8 team playoff system. But, I will say I liked it more going into last season since I was a fringe playoff team and that added seed could have helped me if my team didn't fall apart halfway through. Now that my team seems to be coming together and able to put together a decent season, I won't object if other people want to go back to 7 teams.

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:51 pm
by Black Superman
pennpanther1 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:02 pm What changes would you like to see as far as rule changes?
I like greepleairport's suggestion about injuries so maybe be have an option to train a player's injury rating during the preseason could help prevent those kind of catastrophic injuries. I'd also like if the upcoming draft class got announced a bit earlier in the season. I think if GMs see tanking for someone worthwhile as an incentive they will be more active during the trade deadline.

If you don't have any suggestions about rule changes, take a position on any of the controversial rule changes or implementations of the past few seasons.
I really like expanding the playoffs to 8 teams. The draft lottery at 10 teams is a good, nice number.

When did things make, or not make, sense?
The media controversy got out of hand. I get everybody wants points for their team goals but it got ridiculous when people were just trolling the forum with nonsense and then got butthurt when people called them out. I guess a little drama never killed nobody though.
@pennpanther1 I know the timing of the draft class reveal was specifically put in place to avoid tanking. But in the spirit of election time, do you have a week in which you'd prefer to see the draft class updated/imported from the college sim?

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:52 pm
by Black Superman
Jedihero wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:32 pm
Another rule I would like to see if getting rid of 2nd round picks in general. I know they are simmed anyway, but as far as I've been here there's usually not anyone good that will fall to the 2nd and almost everyone immediately cuts them anyway.
We can't eliminate this from the software, easiest thing is for people to get those cuts in as soon as possible or whenever. But yeah @Jedihero

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:54 pm
by Black Superman
K-100 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:38 pm

When did things make, or not make, sense?
The last few seasons seem more dramatic than usual which has been a buzzkill. Hopefully the good vibes come back soon.
Buzzkill how? Hopefully the break will be the perfect reset for everyone to feel energized again. @K-100

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:59 pm
by Black Superman
BigDaddyd8720 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:35 pm Purple training: I get the reasoning behind it, But I also would like to see this opened up again. At the very least, allow someone to train up to Blue/purple. It does suck to have such a young player reach purple potential through TC and then not be able to do anything. so if they are G/P or even Y/P, we have to sit around and wait for however many seasons for their currents to catch up. Maybe with the stop to training purples, if we put paid TC before regular TC? That way people can train currents on players that may make the jump soon to give them a bigger boost.

I have written about it before but I too always felt like the training should be done prior to TC. I think the thought process from others was that folks wouldn't want the risk since TC is so volatile and unpredictable. But I loved the idea of increasing a future rating and letting a player grow into it prior to TC. As for the training of already purple players.... 🤔 Idk idk. @BigDaddyd8720

Re: S72 Town Hall #12.0 Who Runs This? (2 this week)

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:31 pm
by Mike Lowry
I would like to implement revenue sharing from the luxury tax.
Every point collected from teams that go over the tax should be distributed to the teams that stay under the tax.

I feel strongly about RFA and it's ability to protect poor teams keeping home grown talent

I think the contoversy around the media points raises a valid dialogue, but maybe I can do research to have a better understanding instead of going off how it makes sense in my head.