Did that trade even remotely make sense at the time? The trade was:
Hornets send: Ramon Sessions, Mike Bibby & 2013 Hornets First
For
76ers send: Mike Conley, TJ Ford, & 2013 76ers first.
Ramon Sessions and Conley were both Y/G expiring rooking PGs, averaging 7ppg. Ford and Bibby were both y/y expiring vets averaging 5 and 7 ppg respectively. Then the obvious 76ers pick (their record:66-16) and Hornets pick (their record: 35-47). On its face at the time it was terrible Sessions had a much better FG% and was probably the better overall player at the time. Bibby and Ford both sucked but Bibby averaged 2 more ppg. AND without a doubt a team with a foundation of Tyson Chandler, Dwayne Wade, Demarre Carroll, And Amare Stoudemaire is going to have a better pick than a team who's foundation was....drumroll please...Tracy McGrady on an expiring contract?!?
Oh it gets better. Fastfoward to the offseason Sessions resigns with the 76ers on a good contract, Nick matches a horrible offer from the Bucks on Conley, and Soundwave signs T-Mac and eventually trades him to the Fryeing 76ers?! So at this point Philly owns the Hornets pick (#4 in the lotto btw) and the best player that was on his roster when the trade was made. We aren't done yet it keeps getting better. So for swapping his pick with Philly Nick gets to enjoy one and a half terrible seasons of Mike Conley on a near max contract in which he averages 9.5 ppg and 7 apg with an impressingly bad 37% Field Goal percentage, before he somehow manages to trade his shitty contract for a late lotto and two picks in the 20s in the one of the worst drafts of the decade in 2012 to New York. That would be the end right surely it is? Frye no it's not. Conley is so horrible the Knicks finally realize it, attach their Fryeing draft pick to his pathetic ass in a trade to the Bucks for Brandon "Hey at least my contract doesn't suck" Bass formely known as "Good Stats terrible team" Brandon Bass. And that Fryeing lotto pick is now #5 in the lottery. So Fryeing Mike Conley is responsible for the Bucks and the 76ers having top 5 picks in this years draft. This has Nick, Quail, and Balls written all over it.
You forget the piece of context that makes this even more of a complete story. I had Nick's pick in 2011 draft, when nick... drumroll... made the trade for conley with the idea that he was screwing me over since I had his pick. His spitefulness started this spiral.
And yes, mike conley is worth 2 draft picks. Actually 3 if you want to count Kenneth Faried NOM SAIYAN
IamQuailman wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:37 pm
You forget the piece of context that makes this even more of a complete story. I had Nick's pick in 2011 draft, when nick... drumroll... made the trade for conley with the idea that he was screwing me over since I had his pick. His spitefulness started this spiral.
And yes, mike conley is worth 2 draft picks. Actually 3 if you want to count Kenneth Faried NOM SAIYAN
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So you could say this started when Nick convinced me to take his 2011 pick in exchange for taking Antawn Jamison's behemoth contract off his hands.
I overpaid for mediocrity to try and get an 8th seed that never materialized due to injury of Richard Jefferson/Brandon Bass that year too. Also terrible TCs in back to back years killed what I thought had a promising young core.
This stretch hasn't been ideal but it did net Damian Lillard. It did manage to trade away some negative assets. Mike Conley in theory wasn't the greatest but he was young and had solid potentials. He only died this past year when he was sent over to the Knicks. Having endless amounts of cap doesn't always result in netting good FAs.
IamQuailman wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:37 pm
You forget the piece of context that makes this even more of a complete story. I had Nick's pick in 2011 draft, when nick... drumroll... made the trade for conley with the idea that he was screwing me over since I had his pick. His spitefulness started this spiral.
And yes, mike conley is worth 2 draft picks. Actually 3 if you want to count Kenneth Faried NOM SAIYAN
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So you could say this started when Nick convinced me to take his 2011 pick in exchange for taking Antawn Jamison's behemoth contract off his hands.
Oh yea, i forgot how he got there! Reminds me that i got a pick to take on brandon bass too. So technically brandon bass netted me 3 1sts (faried, knicks 13, and pacers 14) and conley