2007 NBA Draft - 2nd Round Lists due 5 pm Central 4/7

[TrayWithAnA]

In that case I will probably quit. I don't think that's fair at all. The commissioners should be held to the same standard if the owners need to be checking every 5 seconds. I also happened to get caught up in some personal stuff and then I accidentally fell asleep early before checking again. This is extremely upsetting and takes the fun out of this league.

Belinelli was the last good player. There is no way you would have selected someone over him. I see your point, but commish is right and I don't think this is the hill you want to die on. There is no way someone else was on your radar at this pick.

[fearthebrow]

In that case I will probably quit. I don't think that's fair at all. The commissioners should be held to the same standard if the owners need to be checking every 5 seconds. I also happened to get caught up in some personal stuff and then I accidentally fell asleep early before checking again. This is extremely upsetting and takes the fun out of this league.

Belinelli was the last good player. There is no way you would have selected someone over him. I see your point, but commish is right and I don't think this is the hill you want to die on. There is no way someone else was on your radar at this pick.

I was definitely not going to pick him.

[IamQuailman]

In that case I will probably quit. I don't think that's fair at all. The commissioners should be held to the same standard if the owners need to be checking every 5 seconds. I also happened to get caught up in some personal stuff and then I accidentally fell asleep early before checking again. This is extremely upsetting and takes the fun out of this league.

Well I hope you wouldn't quit over this, and if you are really quitting over this, then I'm really sorry to hear that. So I hope you reconsider.

Also, for future reference, if you are unsure you'll be around for your pick, there is (and has always been) the option of sending a list of picks to the commissioner to ensure you get who you want.

But again, i hope you reconsider quitting.

[42PhD]

Wig is being more lenient than with DC's in the Quail reign of terror. See: Pacers.

You can probably trade down and get a point and your guy if you appeal to your people.

I will say, as I said before: this is a little rushed. They pace can be fast, so a little more prep is best for everyone. We have to accept imperfection (not picking), but we should not accept failing to levy simple improvements.

[ballsohard]

In that case I will probably quit. I don't think that's fair at all. The commissioners should be held to the same standard if the owners need to be checking every 5 seconds. I also happened to get caught up in some personal stuff and then I accidentally fell asleep early before checking again. This is extremely upsetting and takes the fun out of this league.

If we were held to the same standard as you, then the pick would have been simmed at 11:15 PM. So the fact that it wasn't checked every 5 second, it bought you time, which you still didn't meet.

Past options:

1.) Make your pick

2.) There's always the ability to send a list.

3.) There's also the ability to say This is my list, but please don't pick until my time is up in case I'm working on a trade or would prefer to pick myself if I can.

4.)There's also the option to send a list and before your pick if you're on to cancel it and select it yourself.

5.) There's also the option of trading it if you you see rl stuff coming up.

Current Options:
1.) There's also the option of taking accountability for your own mistake, saying it sucks and moving on.

2.) There's also the option to trading the guy who was just drafted (who was BPA) and possibly even making points.

3.) Sulk and quit because you messed up.


So with all of that. You had and still have plenty of options. It seems like you're looking for an excuse to be upset. I'm not really sure why maybe a bad week or day which we all have. If that's the case, we're with you and will stand by you. We like having you here, and don't want you to leave, but you're making a mountain out of a mole hill if this is truely what you're upset about.

[ballsohard]

Wig is being more lenient than with DC's in the Quail reign of terror. See: Pacers.

You can probably trade down and get a point and your guy if you appeal to your people.

I will say, as I said before: this is a little rushed. They pace can be fast, so a little more prep is best for everyone. We have to accept imperfection (not picking), but we should not accept failing to levy simple improvements.

agree'd

[Darth Vegito]

In that case I will probably quit. I don't think that's fair at all. The commissioners should be held to the same standard if the owners need to be checking every 5 seconds. I also happened to get caught up in some personal stuff and then I accidentally fell asleep early before checking again. This is extremely upsetting and takes the fun out of this league.

If we were held to the same standard as you, then the pick would have been simmed at 11:15 PM. So the fact that it wasn't checked every 5 second, it bought you time, which you still didn't meet.

Past options:

1.) Make your pick

2.) There's always the ability to send a list.

3.) There's also the ability to say This is my list, but please don't pick until my time is up in case I'm working on a trade or would prefer to pick myself if I can.

4.)There's also the option to send a list and before your pick if you're on to cancel it and select it yourself.

5.) There's also the option of trading it if you you see rl stuff coming up.

Current Options:
1.) There's also the option of taking accountability for your own mistake, saying it sucks and moving on.

2.) There's also the option to trading the guy who was just drafted (who was BPA) and possibly even making points.

3.) Sulk and quit because you messed up.


So with all of that. You had and still have plenty of options. It seems like you're looking for an excuse to be upset. I'm not really sure why maybe a bad week or day which we all have. If that's the case, we're with you and will stand by you. We like having you here, and don't want you to leave, but you're making a mountain out of a mole hill if this is truely what you're upset about.

Wouldn't an ant hill be better Scott? Or are mole hills smaller? Never really seen a mole hill. How big are they really?

Signed with a Scarlet Letter

[fearthebrow]

In that case I will probably quit. I don't think that's fair at all. The commissioners should be held to the same standard if the owners need to be checking every 5 seconds. I also happened to get caught up in some personal stuff and then I accidentally fell asleep early before checking again. This is extremely upsetting and takes the fun out of this league.

If we were held to the same standard as you, then the pick would have been simmed at 11:15 PM. So the fact that it wasn't checked every 5 second, it bought you time, which you still didn't meet.

Past options:

1.) Make your pick

2.) There's always the ability to send a list.

3.) There's also the ability to say This is my list, but please don't pick until my time is up in case I'm working on a trade or would prefer to pick myself if I can.

4.)There's also the option to send a list and before your pick if you're on to cancel it and select it yourself.

5.) There's also the option of trading it if you you see rl stuff coming up.

Current Options:
1.) There's also the option of taking accountability for your own mistake, saying it sucks and moving on.

2.) There's also the option to trading the guy who was just drafted (who was BPA) and possibly even making points.

3.) Sulk and quit because you messed up.


So with all of that. You had and still have plenty of options. It seems like you're looking for an excuse to be upset. I'm not really sure why maybe a bad week or day which we all have. If that's the case, we're with you and will stand by you. We like having you here, and don't want you to leave, but you're making a mountain out of a mole hill if this is truely what you're upset about.

Where does it say anything about sending a list in this thread? And wouldn't that make it unfair to the picking team?? The commissioners are GMs too, so I don't see the advantage of sending a fellow GM my list of potential picks. No one is sulking. I'm upset because I find this situation pretty unfair.

[Inner_GI]

In that case I will probably quit. I don't think that's fair at all. The commissioners should be held to the same standard if the owners need to be checking every 5 seconds. I also happened to get caught up in some personal stuff and then I accidentally fell asleep early before checking again. This is extremely upsetting and takes the fun out of this league.

If we were held to the same standard as you, then the pick would have been simmed at 11:15 PM. So the fact that it wasn't checked every 5 second, it bought you time, which you still didn't meet.

Past options:

1.) Make your pick

2.) There's always the ability to send a list.

3.) There's also the ability to say This is my list, but please don't pick until my time is up in case I'm working on a trade or would prefer to pick myself if I can.

4.)There's also the option to send a list and before your pick if you're on to cancel it and select it yourself.

5.) There's also the option of trading it if you you see rl stuff coming up.

Current Options:
1.) There's also the option of taking accountability for your own mistake, saying it sucks and moving on.

2.) There's also the option to trading the guy who was just drafted (who was BPA) and possibly even making points.

3.) Sulk and quit because you messed up.


So with all of that. You had and still have plenty of options. It seems like you're looking for an excuse to be upset. I'm not really sure why maybe a bad week or day which we all have. If that's the case, we're with you and will stand by you. We like having you here, and don't want you to leave, but you're making a mountain out of a mole hill if this is truely what you're upset about.

Wouldn't an ant hill be better Scott? Or are mole hills smaller? Never really seen a mole hill. How big are they really?

Signed with a Scarlet Letter

[IamQuailman]

Wig is being more lenient than with DC's in the Quail reign of terror. See: Pacers.

You can probably trade down and get a point and your guy if you appeal to your people.

I will say, as I said before: this is a little rushed. They pace can be fast, so a little more prep is best for everyone. We have to accept imperfection (not picking), but we should not accept failing to levy simple improvements.

It's a double-edged sword. If we don't hurry and start the draft and wait a full day we get bitched at. If we start the draft the morning after the lotto (and updated draft file), we are rushed.

Since I stepped down i can drop the veil a bit and not be as nice about it... people need to Fryeing understand that being commissioner takes a LOT of Fryeing work and commitment to something that takes hours to do (free agency alone takes about 10-15 hours of inputting alone), and we aren't paid to do it. Does nitpicking and calling out every little thing help? Yes and no. It helps to know where things can be improved. But radical changes (or even simple ones) take more effort than one can think. The system we have in place here is something we have built from scratch over 100s of hours of deliberation and arguments.

But rules are rules, and the draft process has been in place since the get-go. As for the Commissioners being on every 5 minutes and being held to the same standard... if that was the case, then this pick would've been simmed at 11:30 last night instead of 7:30 this morning. Leeway was given, as wig said "if the gm picks after the time slot in the draft thread but before the pick is simmed in the thread by a commish/inputter, then that usually is allowed".

Being commissioner is a thankless job with zero pay and hefty time commitment; remember that when making complaints about how shit is run around here.

[42PhD]

Quail, and whoever else: my point is not to increase time between the lotto and draft start. Rather, have the players and stats up at least by the Finals. They studying up can be done in parallel.

It does alot, including dampening the sensitivity to one day life events that will always take precedence.

It may not have been an option this season, but it seems a good way to get at least the lotto picks studied up. Also, if it is going to go 2 days for sure, you can maybe set a "depth" cut off. After pick 15, no time limits for the rest of the day. Do the next picks the next day, so a racing draft does not blow by a guy, but you stay on schedule, too.

ETA: To be clear, I get thankless jobs. I have one, and my thanks is being ridiculed and plagiarized. Here, we all have little jobs and a few people have big ones. I think Quail is nicely saying, "Do all your Fryeing jobs so I can do mine." Pick on the verb tense if you wish, but I mean the current draft job.

[IamQuailman]

Quail, and whoever else: my point is not to increase time between the lotto and draft start. Rather, have the players and stats up at least by the Finals. They studying up can be done in parallel.

It does alot, including dampening the sensitivity to one day life events that will always take precedence.

It may not have been an option this season, but it seems a good way to get at least the lotto picks studied up. Also, if it is going to go 2 days for sure, you can maybe set a "depth" cut off. After pick 15, no time limits for the rest of the day. Do the next picks the next day, so a racing draft does not blow by a guy, but you stay on schedule, too.

Oh I agree with that. I feel like they should be in by at least the playoffs. I'm with you on that.

[42PhD]

Wig is being more lenient than with DC's in the Quail reign of terror. See: Pacers.

You can probably trade down and get a point and your guy if you appeal to your people.

I will say, as I said before: this is a little rushed. They pace can be fast, so a little more prep is best for everyone. We have to accept imperfection (not picking), but we should not accept failing to levy simple improvements.

agree'd

Messin' wit me?

[IamQuailman]

Start Time: 8AM CST 4/5/16 (Tuesday)

NEW RULE: 2 Hours time for every pick

Dead Hours: 12:01am-8:00am (clock won't tick on your "on clock time" during these hours... but picks can be made during this time, just draft won't officially resume until 8:00am)

FEEL FREE TO PM WIG A LIST.

On the Clock: Warriors
Deadline: 10 am Central

1 Los Angeles (LAC) Clippers - SF Kevin Durant
2 Seattle Supersonics - C Marc Gasol
3 Cleveland Cavaliers - C Al Horford
4 Los Angeles (LAL) Lakers (from Orlando) - PG Mike Conley
5 Atlanta Hawks - C Joakim Noah
6 Golden State Warriors - SG Jared Dudley
7 Houston Rockets - SF Thaddeus Young
8 San Antonio Spurs - SG Arron Afflalo
9 New York Knicks - SG Wilson Chandler
10 Utah Jazz (from VanMemphis) - C Greg Oden
11 Toronto Raptors - PG Rodney Stuckey
12 Chicago Bulls - SG Nick Young
13 Indiana Pacers - PG Ramon Sessions
14 Portland Trailblazers - C Tiago Splitter
15 Phoenix Suns - SF Jamario Moon
16 Miami Heat - C Spencer Hawes
17 Detroit Pistons - PF Carl Landry
18 Orlando Magic (from Lakers) - C Aaron Gray
19 Orlando Magic (from New Jersey) - PG CJ Watson
20 Washington Wizards - SG Rudy Fernandez
21 Dallas Mavericks (from New Orleans) - SG Marco Belinelli
22 Golden State Warriors (from Philadelphia)
23 Los Angeles (LAC) Clippers (from Milwaukee)
24 Toronto Raptors (from Dallas)
25 Atlanta Hawks (from Utah)
26 Minnesota Timberwolves
27 Boston Celtics
28 Los Angeles (LAL) Lakers (from Denver)
29 Toronto (from Sacramento)

30 Orlando Magic
31 San Antonio Spurs
32 Atlanta Hawks
33 Golden State Warriors
34 Golden State Warriors
35 Los Angeles (LAC) Clippers
36 Houston Rockets
37 San Antonio Spurs
38 VanMemphis Grizzlies
39 New York Knicks
40 Portland Trailblazers
41 Phoenix Suns
42 Toronto Raptors
43 Indiana Pacers
44 Chicago Bulls
45 Detroit Pistons
46 Miami Heat
47 Seattle Supersonics
48 Los Angeles (LAL) Lakers
49 Washington Wizards
50 Boston Celtics
51 Philadelphia 76ers
52 Dallas Mavericks
53 Milwaukee Bucks
54 Utah Jazz
55 Minnesota Timberwolves
56 Boston Celtics
57 Denver Nuggets
58 Sacramento Kings

[RPF]

Can we please get back to the draft in here, take this to a new thread.
Thanks - Management

[JNR]

Can we please get back to the draft in here, take this to a new thread.
Thanks - Management

Yeah this was my idea that RPF stole, but I totally agree.

[42PhD]

Quail, and whoever else: my point is not to increase time between the lotto and draft start. Rather, have the players and stats up at least by the Finals. They studying up can be done in parallel.

It does alot, including dampening the sensitivity to one day life events that will always take precedence.

It may not have been an option this season, but it seems a good way to get at least the lotto picks studied up. Also, if it is going to go 2 days for sure, you can maybe set a "depth" cut off. After pick 15, no time limits for the rest of the day. Do the next picks the next day, so a racing draft does not blow by a guy, but you stay on schedule, too.

Oh I agree with that. I feel like they should be in by at least the playoffs. I'm with you on that.

Yes, that is all I mean. They players were not right, so it is hard to comb through the data.

It can be done through the season, maybe.

I am a big believer in doing certain things in parallel to compress the schedule rather than trying to do them all in sequence.

Also, some inputting, maybe can be streamlined, like alphabetical submittal, and the like. Maybe some people can do some error checking in advance to leave inputters inputting. Just random ideas for another thread.

I'll take Bellinelli for points, brah.

[Bowtothebill23]

Warriors select Jeff Green.

[TrayWithAnA]

In that case I will probably quit. I don't think that's fair at all. The commissioners should be held to the same standard if the owners need to be checking every 5 seconds. I also happened to get caught up in some personal stuff and then I accidentally fell asleep early before checking again. This is extremely upsetting and takes the fun out of this league.

Belinelli was the last good player. There is no way you would have selected someone over him. I see your point, but commish is right and I don't think this is the hill you want to die on. There is no way someone else was on your radar at this pick.

I was definitely not going to pick him.

My apologies

[aburns211]

With the 23rd selection; the Los Angeles Clippers select...

Aaron Brooks, Point Guard out of the University of Oregon

[IamQuailman]

With the 24th pick, the Toronto Raptors select Nick Fazekas (via list).

[Soundwave]

Raptors select Corey Brewer

[Xist2Inspire]

With the 26th pick in the draft, the Washington Wizards select Brandan Wright, center out of North Carolina.

[RPF]

with the 27th pick the New Jersey Nets select Daequan Cook, shooting guard Ohio State

[Eazy P]

With the 28th pick of the 2007 draft the San Antonio Spurs select Glen Big Baby Davis out of LSU.