S84 Town Hall 12

[Mike Lowry]

Will the Bernard King injury be more impactful than the Mychal Thompson and Darwin Cook injuries?
What are the implications?

Rules: 1 point if you give thoughtful answers, which I will award after the timer ends for responses. The timer ends for responses at the moment the corresponding week's Sim is run.

Note: Use approximately 5 sentences as your bare minimum for 1 point. If you write 3 long, complex sentences, you'll still get a point. If you write 5, 3 word sentences, you will not get a point. Don't @ me.

Due: Due by the deadline for sim 11

[IamQuailman]

Will the Bernard King injury be more impactful than the Mychal Thompson and Darwin Cook injuries?
What are the implications?

No, and I'll tell you why. In the end of the season, King will be back for the playoffs. The Knicks may slip and lose their Round 1 buy if Moses Malone doesn't put the team on his back, but in the end, they will be fighting come end of April and King will be fine. Thompson & Cook getting hurt... not only is that TWO starters on their team going out for a month.. but they have to worry about the surging HEALTHY Clippers who are coming up. We all thought the wheels would fall off the Warriors when they kinda blew things up... but they didnt and they are still hanging in there... that could be a big problem for the Sonics if they go on even a 3-4 game skid without their two big pieces. Of their next 10... there are 3-4 cakewalk games & the rest are against teams in the playoff hunt... including Warriors and Kings (twice away). All teams of whom they are jockeying for playoff positioning. While there is some depth to accommodate the loss of Cook & Thompson, those are some substantial minutes being replaced.

Losing Bernard King hurts, but it's only one spot to fill instead of 2.

[K-100]

No, I dont think the King injury will be more impactful than the Cook/Thompson injuries. The Knicks may drop the division now but they will sit comfortably in the 3 spot and face off against the Bullets in Round 2 with a healthy King. I dont think the Sonics injuries will spoil their playoff chances because they have a handful of games against bottom-feeders which will be enough to stave off the Clippers even if they slide down to the #6.

[logpmess]

Will the Bernard King injury be more impactful than the Mychal Thompson and Darwin Cook injuries?
What are the implications?

Rules: 1 point if you give thoughtful answers, which I will award after the timer ends for responses. The timer ends for responses at the moment the corresponding week's Sim is run.

Note: Use approximately 5 sentences as your bare minimum for 1 point. If you write 3 long, complex sentences, you'll still get a point. If you write 5, 3 word sentences, you will not get a point. Don't @ me.

Due: Due by the deadline for sim 11

The King injury is by far the more impactful injury. King is such a vital player for a definite playoff team that would greatly benefit from a bye in the playoffs. The injury is going to make the Knicks play in the first round, which they should still win, but that definitely depends on matchups. Also, that opens up the door for another injury rather than some rest at the end of the season for their players to heal up.

Realistically, what impact does the Sonics injuries have more than any other regular season injuries? They were never going to win the division. They have a 6.5 game lead on the 7th place team. They have Darwin Schayes to fill in for Thompson. They have Wiggins to fill in for Cook. Nobody was going to pick them to win a series in the playoffs because they would face the Kings, Lakes, Spurs, or Blazers.

An injury to a true title contender to their top 1 or 2 player on the team is definitely more significant than a first round exit team losing two role players.

[WigNosy]

Will the Bernard King injury be more impactful than the Mychal Thompson and Darwin Cook injuries?
What are the implications?

Rules: 1 point if you give thoughtful answers, which I will award after the timer ends for responses. The timer ends for responses at the moment the corresponding week's Sim is run.

Note: Use approximately 5 sentences as your bare minimum for 1 point. If you write 3 long, complex sentences, you'll still get a point. If you write 5, 3 word sentences, you will not get a point. Don't @ me.

Due: Due by the deadline for sim 11

The Bernard King injury's impact is probably to knock the Knicks out of the #2 seed and a first-round bye... and into the #3 seed which means a matchup with the #6 seed, which they should win - as others have said, King should be back in time for the playoffs. So all it really costs them home court in round 2 versus the Bullets.The Cook and Thompson injuries probably cost the Sonics the #4 seed, so they won't have home court in the 4-5 matchup. But it won't meaningfully affect them in Round 2 (they wouldn't have home court anyway) and beyond.

The Bullets are about the same on the road as they are at home (they're tied with the Blazers as the league's best road team); even though the Knicks have been exceptional at home this season, I think this means I think the home court advantage the Knicks lose isn't hugely impactful... while both the Kings and Sonics are both very mediocre on the road. Since home court is a huge edge for both the Kings and the Sonics, while home court means nothing to the Bullets, that tells me that the loss of home court is a bigger blow to the Sonics' chances than losing home court is to the Knicks, so I say the Cook and Thompson injuries.

[Mike Lowry]

In my opinion, it's very clear where these teams slide to, and they're both gonna slide, but where they end up is the question.
The Sonics end up with the six seed in the West and a first round date with the Lakers.
They actually haven't fared poorly against LA, and it's obvious that the Lake Show is struggling to acclimate Jack, Sparrow, and Cummings.
Still nobody wants to see Magic with their season on the line, and both injuries will carry into the playoffs.
The Sonics are another one and done in the playoffs.
The Knicks will cede the division to its rightful owner, the Washington Bullets.
They have a five and a half game lead on the Bulls for the three spot, and I think they can manage to hold that spot with help from the Lakers and Bucks who the Bulls would have to beat along with NY losing almost every game on their tough remaining schedule.
That doesn't get them clear though.
By my count, King misses the beginning of the first round matchup against the Pacers, who have had great success against them, even when King was healthy.
If they won the division, and had a bye, he could have come back healthy and played the whole series instead of limping onto the court at half strength and trying to carry the team across the line.
I predict both teams lose in the first round, but that is more of a tragedy for the Knicks who looked very strong as a title contender earlier in the season.

[BigDaddyd8720]

Not just because it's my team but the Thompson and Cook injuries will be far more impactful. I am without two starters for the rest of the regular season and most likely all of Round 1. This was looking like the season where I could finally get my first playoff series win but these injuries make that incredibly difficult. The only silver lining is that it seems I only need to win 3 more games, at most, in order to clinch a playoff spot. And I have a bunch of home games against lesser teams. But even then, down two starters and having to throw in two bench players, even though they could be/were starters on other teams, means my gameplan changes. The Knicks losing King only affects their seeding but not their playoff hopes. Hopefully Eaton and Brewer were the right pickups for me and I can hold on to home court advantage for the first round

[greepleairport]

Will the Bernard King injury be more impactful than the Mychal Thompson and Darwin Cook injuries?
What are the implications?

I think the Thompson and Cook injuries are more significant, because going into sim 12, Mark Eaton is all of a sudden hobbling across the finish line, too! They're tied with the kings for 4th in the conference, and they have two away games against the Kings in the final sim. This almost certainly places them in 5th instead of 4th, ceding homecourt advantage to the Kings in the playoffs, which could have dire implications for a 1st round exit. Sonics went into this season looking like a juggernaut to me, and this outcome must certainly be disappointing.

On the flip side, the Knicks hold the 3 seed. It's not the 2 seed, which they may have held with a healthy King, but they certainly make it past the 6 seed and get King back healthy and roaring into the semis.

[Mike Lowry]

@IamQuailman
@K-100
@logpmess
@WigNosy
@Mike Lowry
@BigDaddyd8720
@greepleairport

+1 point