S84 Town Hall 7

[Mike Lowry]

Name a player that didn't make the All Star Game that should have.
Why did they deserve a nod?
Why do you think they were snubbed?
Who would you have taken off the Roster to make room for your guy?

Rules: 1 point if you give thoughtful answers, which I will award after the timer ends for responses. The timer ends for responses at the moment the corresponding week's Sim is run.

Note: Use approximately 5 sentences as your bare minimum for 1 point. If you write 3 long, complex sentences, you'll still get a point. If you write 5, 3 word sentences, you will not get a point. Don't @ me.

Due: Due by the deadline for sim 8

[AngryBanana]

Name a player that didn't make the All Star
Game that should have.
1. Hakeem. I know, he did make it and will be awarded points as a result, but he did not play even though he was the third best big and second best PF on that roster.
2. Ralph Sampson. Another Example Of People In Power Hating On The Celtics.

Why did they deserve a nod?
1. Hakeem has been pretty dominant in his minutes he has received at his less natural position of PF this season. He is fighting MJ hard for the ROY as a result, which I don’t think people would have thought going into the year.

2 Everyone Has Ralph’s Name In Their Mouth’s. They All Want Me To Trade Him For Pennies On The Dollar. But Even With Him Being So God-like They Still Want To Suppress His Greatness On The Celtics So That He Forces A trade.

Why do you think they were snubbed?
1. Hakeem was snubbed from playing probably because of his minutes. That’s the only thing that makes sense to me. If that’s the case, I’m fine with it as it’s on me for gameplanning his limited mins with Ralph hurt.
2. Like I Just Said, They Want To Snub Him To Creat A Problem That Shouldn’t Be There Because They Hate Us.

Who would you have taken off the Roster to make room for your guy?

1. I would have had him play the mins Buck played. He had the better argument going into the game stat wise, by a strong margin I think.

2. Personally? I Would Have Put Him In Over Kevin McHale.


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[logpmess]

Name a player that didn't make the All Star Game that should have.
Why did they deserve a nod?
Why do you think they were snubbed?
Who would you have taken off the Roster to make room for your guy?

Rules: 1 point if you give thoughtful answers, which I will award after the timer ends for responses. The timer ends for responses at the moment the corresponding week's Sim is run.

Note: Use approximately 5 sentences as your bare minimum for 1 point. If you write 3 long, complex sentences, you'll still get a point. If you write 5, 3 word sentences, you will not get a point. Don't @ me.

Due: Due by the deadline for sim 8

This is a hard question for me. I'm don't stay super familiar with teams across the league. Doing some research, I'm actually good with the ASG rosters. I don't see any glaring miss. Any "snub" would take convincing, and I've always felt that if you have to convince someone about it, then it's not a clear mistake.

But to add to the discussion, I will mention that the [Bluntforce] Trailblazers had nobody make the team. Usually, the top teams in each conference will have at least one player make the bench. It really is a testament to the team build that the Blazers have pursued this year. They have such a balanced team that they don't need a singular top player to carry them to so many wins. It's very impressive even if it gets them less points by missing any bids. It also is a commendation of some of the up and coming teams like the Supersonics that have two bench players that are some of the best in the league.

[K-100]

Bill Laimbeer over Eddie A. Johnson

Johnson just scores. He puts up gaudy stats but is not a complete player like Bill Laimbeer. Laimbeer scores, rebounds, defends the paint. He is an all-star, Johnson is a stat-padder. The league wants to showcase talent and not emphasize fundamentals. We need more defense in the all-star game, Laimbeer would have provided that in bunches.

[Mike Lowry]

I'll take Mike Mitchell over WBF.
The Clippers are a talented bunch.
Managing 26 points and 5 boards in that crowd is impressive.
I know the positions don't line up, which makes WBF 4 turnovers that much harder to overlook.
He is highlight reel though.
I mostly think Mitchell didn't get in because of the depth in the West at forward.

[greepleairport]

Name a player that didn't make the All Star Game that should have.
Why did they deserve a nod?
Why do you think they were snubbed?
Who would you have taken off the Roster to make room for your guy?

Honestly the absence of a Celtic is interesting to me. I'm sure Charlie already wrote plenty about this, but both Sampson and Olajuwon are better scorers already than their obvious counterparts, Darryl Dawkins and Buck Williams, respectively. I do think the simputer weights scoring pretty heavily in selecting its all stars, so I thought Sampson and Olajuwon would be in the mix - at least one if not the other. On the flip side, I think it's pretty gangster they both got snubbed lol, but no worries, they have many all star seasons ahead, the both of them, so they can percolate a while longer.

I think one noticeable absence is Tom Chambers, though. He played bench minutes, so naturally he'd be overlooked, but he's a starting caliber all star power forward, possible center in a pinch. He'll get plenty of minutes next year in Golden State, so I think this wrong will be made right.

[IamQuailman]

I think Ralph Sampson was an absolute snub from the All-Star game. Sure Some people may attribute that to the fact he's been injured for a little while (watching his return closely to make sure AB doesn't try another "saving him for a trade" IR tactic... we are onto your games you little SNEAK). But I think Ralph was truly snubbed because he plays for such a lousy franchise, a coach who celebrates losing, & a GM that will jettison him the moment they have the chance to draft Patrick Ewing or Karl Malone. If Ralph was in an environment that would CELEBRATE his prowess and skill set (let's say... the Milwaukee Bucks for example), he would be a set-it-and-forget-it perennial All-Star. However, we do not live in that reality, therefore Ralph must settle for sub-mediocrity and fake accolades like "fan-voted MVP".

[BigDaddyd8720]

Name a player that didn't make the All Star Game that should have.
Why did they deserve a nod?
Why do you think they were snubbed?
Who would you have taken off the Roster to make room for your guy?

I'm not really sure anybody got snubbed. Maybe Mike Mitchell but I'm not exactly sure who to put him in over. The West is loaded with talent. I really think the All Star Game got it right this year. Another possible change would be naming Gminski a starter over Parish. Their stats are very similar but Gminski's O EFF and D EFF are far better than Parish's. Yes, I know that can be a product of being on a bad team but with such a huge difference in the efficiencies makes me want to give the edge to Gminski.

[WigNosy]

Name a player that didn't make the All Star Game that should have.
Why did they deserve a nod?
Why do you think they were snubbed?
Who would you have taken off the Roster to make room for your guy?

Rickey Green of the Supersonics was a reach as an all-star pick at guard (so I can't replace him with a non-guard). 14 ppg on 43.8% shooting? I hear you, "but Wig, he's averaging 11.1 apg and 2.1!" Isiah Thomas of the Spurs is averaging 15.4 ppg on 45.7% shooting with 11.3 apg and 2.1 spg. That's the same number of steals, more assists, more points, and better shooting. John Stockton of the Suns is averaging 15.0 ppg on 50.8% shooting with 11.0 apg and 2.1 spg. More points, much better shooting, same steals, and 1/10th of an assist less. Norm Nixon of the Lakers could be a comparable choice to Green (15.6 ppg, 49.2% shooting, 8.8 apg, 1.5 spg - you're giving up some steals and assists but gaining scoring and shooting accuracy). The Spurs already had three all-stars splitting votes, so give me John Stockton over Green. Stock got snubbed, and I'd be willing to listen to an argument Isiah got snubbed. Either way, Green was the wrong pick.

[TheSyndicate]

Name a player that didn't make the All Star Game that should have.
Why did they deserve a nod?
Why do you think they were snubbed?
Who would you have taken off the Roster to make room for your guy?

No love for Mike Mitchell? Bro can put the ball in the basket, grabs boards and plays defense, put him IN coach.
The game really tries to have fielty to positional fairness, but players are at all kinds of random positions, so it's chaos. With this model, the 3rd best player at any given position has the best chances of getting snubbed, and that's where we're at here. World B. Free is definitely not as good, but like I said, the positions make the argument complicated. English probably has to go as a 2-guard for Mitchell to get the other FW spot.

[BigDaddyd8720]

Name a player that didn't make the All Star Game that should have.
Why did they deserve a nod?
Why do you think they were snubbed?
Who would you have taken off the Roster to make room for your guy?

Rickey Green of the Supersonics was a reach as an all-star pick at guard (so I can't replace him with a non-guard). 14 ppg on 43.8% shooting? I hear you, "but Wig, he's averaging 11.1 apg and 2.1!" Isiah Thomas of the Spurs is averaging 15.4 ppg on 45.7% shooting with 11.3 apg and 2.1 spg. That's the same number of steals, more assists, more points, and better shooting. John Stockton of the Suns is averaging 15.0 ppg on 50.8% shooting with 11.0 apg and 2.1 spg. More points, much better shooting, same steals, and 1/10th of an assist less. Norm Nixon of the Lakers could be a comparable choice to Green (15.6 ppg, 49.2% shooting, 8.8 apg, 1.5 spg - you're giving up some steals and assists but gaining scoring and shooting accuracy). The Spurs already had three all-stars splitting votes, so give me John Stockton over Green. Stock got snubbed, and I'd be willing to listen to an argument Isiah got snubbed. Either way, Green was the wrong pick.

Rude


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[Xist2Inspire]

Name a player that didn't make the All Star Game that should have.
Why did they deserve a nod?
Why do you think they were snubbed?
Who would you have taken off the Roster to make room for your guy?

Oh, there was an All-Star game? Hmm, I didn't notice. Well, I'm sure almost everyone who was deserving made it, and there aren't any undeserving charlatans amongst the stars. However, I will argue for one, snubbed only because he's the captain of one of the worst teams in the league.

...Craig Ehlo.

What, did you expect John Stockton? Bah, he's not on my team, so I don't care. I'm only interested in the points I could've made, and Ehlo being robbed of his rightful place deprives me of a couple of extra ones. Ehlo is a master of the 3pt shot despite only being in second season, proving it by vanquishing...er...well, I guess it wasn't a particularly impressive field...by vanquishing all comers in the highly competitive 3pt Shootout. He's shooting an incredible .378% from deep, which leads the entire league in...who? Dale Ellis? Eddie L. Johnson? Danny Ainge? ... .463%, .471%, and .455%!?!? W-well Ehlo beat them all anyway, so there!

...ah, whatever. Is the season over yet?

[Mike Lowry]

@AngryBanana
@logpmess
@K-100
@Mike Lowry
@greepleairport
@IamQuailman
@WigNosy
@BigDaddyd8720
@TheSyndicate
@Xist2Inspire

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