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NPBSL Mount Rushmore

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Hello everyone and welcome back to another AngryBanana is bored, let’s write another article series. So after strenuous hours of recreating my powerrr rankings, that involved hours of trying to scrape the index correctly (which was way harder than I expected. The index is very hard to scrap because of the way it’s built.), getting the right data out of the index once I figured it out, getting a new way to resolve a powerrr ranking formula after the macros I used for the old one was discontinued after the developer killed the app. After all that I realized it was way too late in the year to get a solid point grab from the series, so I needed to pivot and find an additional article idea.

Given my new found skills of scrapping data, I decided to build a new one for players to see who has truly been playing well on their teams (Hey, @IAmQuailmam, Ralph’s season last year was pretty good.) After weeks of tinkering I was able to build something out. Once getting the data needed, I again needed to think of a way to mathematically evaluating a players. With some help of AI, I built out a formula to capture a player’s value added to a team in any given season.

When I was able to get this formula fully realized in a datasheet format, comprised of computing several values based on points, rebounds, assists, fouls, and other stats then converting the data to a per 36 min amount to account for time disparity, I got my golden number. I finally took out the outliers of players who played under ten minutes a game and finally summed the players contribution based on season and team played for. The other condition I decided to apply was to regular season only in order to get an idea of the players overall when they are all playing. This was an interesting way to do it, because if players were traded mid season they had two values for that season, more on that later though.

Before I started messing with the data and reviewing the results, I wanted to do a top ten best and worst players of the year or of PBSL to date. However, I realized quickly that would be top boring. The top end would consist of Magic and Moses and the bottom would be players people have never cares about enough to remember, even if they played for their own team.

I decided that the best way to get a good article out to show my data and have everyone engaged would be one talking about each team instead. We have now had a few seasons where each team has had a chance at being decent so I decided this article will be a Team X Mount Rushmore article. Where each team section will show the top four seasons played by the player. The table will consist of player name, season of their performance, the team name, their score, and the ranking in the overall rankings across all SLOE. So without further any further nonsense that I’m sure none of you are reading - here is the article.

76ers:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Larry Nance198276ers56,228.0077
Walter Davis198376ers54,263.0085
Larry Nance198176ers46,390.00145
To start out our list were going to talk about the 76ers. This is a team that Quail and LTS will look at and see who they want to slime away from digi. Well, too bad, all the assets have been taken. Larry had a good two year stretch for Digi before being traded to the Bullets though. After further review, Davis was the player Digi got back for Nance, so plus value overall for that deal in the little I am seeing of it.

Bucks:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Kevin McHale1983Bucks85,183.008
Robert Parish1981Bucks82,858.0011
Kevin McHale1984Bucks77,692.0015
Walter Davis1981Bucks60,955.0049
You see that right. A player that was on the bucks later played for the 76ers. However, it is not what you think and the Bullets we’re the team sandwiched in this Davis sandwich. Otherwise,the other three seasons have been top notch. McHale and Parish all had top end seasons. Quail did move Parish after this season, will he do the same with McHale?

Bullets:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Larry Nance1983Bullets75,884.0017
Buck Williams1982Bullets58,468.0060
Larry Nance1984Bullets58,018.0063
Buck Williams1983Bullets57,845.0064
Ok… hopefully we close this Walter Davis circle. Larry Nance is represented again here. His season in ‘83 was astronomical, getting a top 20 ranking. Seeing Buck on here shows how good the Bullets are at trading given that both players were brought in via trade.

Bulls:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Calvin Natt1984Bulls73,426.0020
Alex English1983Bulls60,005.0055
Maurice Cheeks1983Bulls54,097.0089
George Gervin1983Bulls52,582.00102
Speaking of building good teams. It’s impressive to see the Bulls have all of their best players come in the past two seasons. Log took a few years to build this team, but they really have built a strong contender here, with guys like Natt who had a stellar year this season. You have to get eight player deep before you see someone that isn’t from the past two seasons (Steve Johnson 1981 season).

Cavaliers:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Sidney Moncrief1983Cavaliers67,367.0030
Sidney Moncrief1982Cavaliers58,302.0062
Jim Paxson1983Cavaliers56,642.0075
Sidney Moncrief1981Cavaliers54,180.0087
This team should be renamed the Moncreif Paxoson’s because the top ten results were all those two players.

Celtics:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar1980Celtics75,690.0018
Bernard King1981Celtics71,456.0022
Ralph Sampson1983Celtics57,125.0072
Hakeem Olajuwon1984Celtics52,837.0099
I always felt good about Kareem being my top pick and laying the foundation that this team would be a big centered org. These numbers show that.

Clippers:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Reggie Theus1983Clippers59,807.0056
Mike Mitchell1983Clippers56,020.0078
Mike Mitchell1984Clippers53,885.0091
Reggie Theus1982Clippers51,764.00106
Reggie Theus is a guy who some have called and written about being overrated. Thankfully, JNR ignored that and saw the true alpha in Theus. Mitchell has also showed his value this season where he was pivotal to the clippers this post season before scratching his eye.

Hawks:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Dennis Johnson1982Hawks49,385.00124
Dennis Johnson1980Hawks44,442.00167
Dennis Johnson1981Hawks43,862.00170
Dan Roundfield1983Hawks39,424.00228
While the list of players in this list is a guy who later got a great deal from a smart GM and a former championship winning big past his prime, don’t worry Syndicate. Number five on the list, and right behind Roundfield overall, is Sir Charles maiden voyage.

Jazz
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Kiki Vandeweghe1981Jazz74,794.0019
Kiki Vandeweghe1983Jazz70,160.0024
Kiki Vandeweghe1982Jazz63,587.0043
Tom Chambers1983Jazz51,106.00110
This one hurts to see. The mountain would surely be demolished if this was the case in real life because Benedict Arnold himself leads the way for the SLC crew. Chambers had a solid season in 83 as well and maybe would have excelled in Utah if he stayed instead of bouncing to Washington and Golden State.

Kings:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Calvin Natt1982Kings83,776.0010
Bernard King1983Kings69,469.0027
Mike Gminski1982Kings66,362.0033
Alex English1984Kings64,224.0040
I thought it would have been more representation of the championship season for the kings, but seeing Natt at the top shows how important he was to this team, getting a top ten ranking overall. Seeing English fourth on the list for his season this year shows how good he was in his age 31 season, given the quality players the Kings have rolled out on the court.

Knicks:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Moses Malone1984Knicks70,985.0023
Bernard King1984Knicks59,310.0058
Alex English1982Knicks57,791.0065
Julius Erving1980Knicks57,283.0069
Another team, another showing of familiar faces with King and English. The real star though is Malone, who still put up great value in his first season away from the Bay. Have to give a little love to Dr. J as well who balled out in the first season.

Lakers:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Magic Johnson1984Lakers106,499.001
Magic Johnson1983Lakers87,113.007
Jamaal Wilkes1980Lakers55,771.0080
World B. Free1983Lakers53,917.0090
Ok, this is where I bring back up the player getting traded and also counting towards his team(s) and not just the year. Magic was traded in season in 1983 from the Suns to the Lakers. It didn’t matter though, because he still put up so much value in the 40-50 games that season for the Lakers that he had the 7th best season in PBSL history. That’s honestly more impressive than his season this year to me.

Mavericks:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
George Gervin1980Mavericks66,298.0034
George Gervin1981Mavericks64,955.0036
Dan Issel1980Mavericks59,569.0057
Johnny Moore1982Mavericks51,923.00105
The three players representing the Mavs on this list were the top three picks for the Mavs in the creation draft. Props to the Mavs for getting the right mixture of players out the gate. Moore particularly was a great pick, before pulling a Kiki and leaving in UFA. Hopefully they will be able to pivot again soon and get some newer players up here.

Nets:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Darryl Dawkins1983Nets67,421.0029
Darryl Dawkins1981Nets64,926.0037
Darryl Dawkins1984Nets60,642.0051
Darryl Dawkins1980Nets58,396.0061
My goodness, Dawkins is really that guy huh? I know I should have a better idea of how good he is since he is in my division, but I somehow missed he was THAT Fryeing good. Good on the Nets and I hope that they can keep building a quality team around them.

Nuggets:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Alex English1980Nuggets84,488.009
Alex English1981Nuggets81,936.0012
Dan Roundfield1981Nuggets68,980.0028
John Lucas1981Nuggets48,629.00130

According to this exercise, the Nuggets are stuck in the past. English, the guy that brought them to glory in the first season truly balled while on this team. Clyde is getting to a point where he can start challenging some of the older teams players, but may need another season or two to crack this top four group.

Pacers:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Adrian Dantley1981Pacers80,291.0014
Adrian Dantley1980Pacers73,361.0021
Adrian Dantley1982Pacers70,128.0025
Joe Barry Carroll1980Pacers65,675.0035
I am surprised to not see more recent players on this list, given that Pauly always manages to have a good team. What’s even odder is that Dantley is still on this team, but hasn’t been as valuable to the team the past two seasons, and now that he is 29 he may never reach his old glory.

Pistons:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Dan Roundfield1980Pistons64,850.0038
Terry Cummings1982Pistons63,572.0044
Terry Cummings1983Pistons60,505.0052
Terry Cummings1984Pistons55,379.0081
Dan Roundfield has really been around the block huh? I don’t know that any other player will show up in this article across so many teams. Well, after his breakout first season in Detroit, Terry decided to turn the team into one he will run. He may have regressed in every season, but that may be attributed to the added help surrounding him.

Rockets:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Larry Bird1980Rockets66,748.0032
Larry Bird1983Rockets61,326.0047
Larry Bird1981Rockets57,776.0066
Larry Bird1984Rockets57,600.0068
Poor Larry…

Spurs:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Calvin Natt1980Spurs69,840.0026
Kiki Vandeweghe1984Spurs60,491.0053
Michael Jordan1984Spurs60,386.0054
Kevin McHale1980Spurs57,200.0070
The next few years are going to be fun…

Suns:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Magic Johnson1981Suns102,593.003
Magic Johnson1982Suns99,979.004
Magic Johnson1980Suns89,536.005
John Long1980Suns54,580.0083
Guess who was fifth on the suns list, if you guessed Dan Roundfield you would be correct. Anyways, Magic was truly dominant in Phoenix (while being played out of position) and the fact that Dr. K didn’t get a kings ransom is very sad. Also, if you added his 1983 season here with the Lakers 1983 season it would be the best all time…

SuperSonics:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Dominique Wilkins1984Supersonics67,367.0031
Dominique Wilkins1983Supersonics63,943.0041
Dominique Wilkins1982Supersonics56,430.0076
Rickey Green1984Supersonics50,188.00117
This is another one that should be of no surprise to anyone. Wilkins is the guy in Seattle. I’m only shocked that it was Rickey Green as the other player listed and not Kareem, Cook, or Parish.

Trailblazers:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar1981Trailblazers54,490.0084
James Worthy1983Trailblazers53,791.0093
Bernard King1980Trailblazers52,211.00104
Bill Cartwright1983Trailblazers50,285.00116
Speaking of the man formerly named Lew Alcindor. While the Blazers surprisingly had no one in the top 50 of this list, it’s also not surprising given the way they build their teams. If anything if I tweaked the formulas to pull players who are the most likely to injure I’m sure his team would shoot up the rankings.

Warriors:
Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Moses Malone1981Warriors105,876.002
Moses Malone1980Warriors88,124.006
Moses Malone1982Warriors81,202.0013
Moses Malone1983Warriors77,335.0016
All I say to end this article is that maybe Greeple was smart to move Moses when he did? While he is still great, and a perennial MVP canidate and ASG game rep, there is a clear drop in value from the early years to later in SLOE.

Thank you all for reading. As a special side treat because it is just something I did to try to check things out, I pulled the East and West players as well. Check out the full rankings below.

Player NameSeasonTeam NamePlayer's ScoreRank
Kiki Vandeweghe1984West1,357.001317
Kiki Vandeweghe1982West1,170.001333
Moses Malone1981West1,127.001338
Marques Johnson1980East1,080.001344
Kevin McHale1984East1,051.001346
Dennis Johnson1983East990.001350
Robert Parish1981East954.001353
Magic Johnson1984West907.001358
Jim Paxson1982East886.001364
Reggie Theus1983West875.001365
Walter Davis1982West853.001369
George Gervin1980West850.001371
Calvin Natt1982West824.001373
Darryl Dawkins1984East806.001375
Magic Johnson1982West796.001378
Reggie Theus1984West785.001380
Michael Jordan1984West760.001385
Moses Malone1984East745.001387
Mike Gminski1983West738.001389
Dan Roundfield1980East731.001390
Dominique Wilkins1982West720.001394
Ralph Sampson1983East695.001399
Reggie Theus1981West695.001400
Calvin Natt1980West684.001404
Kevin McHale1983East677.001406
Joe Barry Carroll1980East655.001408
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar1980East641.001413
Maurice Cheeks1981East641.001414
Adrian Dantley1983East634.001415
Magic Johnson1983West623.001416
Joe Barry Carroll1981East619.001417
Buck Williams1984East612.001418
Dominique Wilkins1984West612.001419
Adrian Dantley1980East605.001422
Kevin McHale1982East601.001424
Rickey Green1983West598.001425
Larry Bird1984West594.001428
Maurice Cheeks1984East590.001429
Darryl Dawkins1982East583.001431
Julius Erving1980East583.001432
Magic Johnson1981West576.001436
Larry Nance1983East576.001437
Maurice Cheeks1982East565.001439
Sidney Moncrief1982East554.001440
Adrian Dantley1984East554.001441
Robert Parish1984West544.001443
Sidney Moncrief1983East544.001444
Johnny Moore1982West536.001446
Darryl Dawkins1981East518.001448
Larry Bird1981West518.001449
Kiki Vandeweghe1980West515.001451
Larry Bird1983West497.001455
Mike Gminski1981West493.001456
Rickey Green1982East490.001457
Mike Gminski1984West479.001458
Dominique Wilkins1983West475.001459
Johnny Moore1980West464.001462
Johnny Moore1984East464.001463
George Gervin1981West457.001465
Moses Malone1983West450.001466
Calvin Natt1983West446.001467
Reggie Theus1980West443.001468
Kiki Vandeweghe1983West436.001470
Jim Paxson1981East421.001473
Dan Roundfield1981West421.001474
Robert Parish1983West421.001475
Brad Davis1980East414.001478
Dan Issel1980West414.001479
Terry Cummings1983East410.001480
Larry Nance1982East403.001481
Robert Parish1982West400.001482
Magic Johnson1980West392.001485
Calvin Natt1984East371.001493
Alex English1983East360.001495
Adrian Dantley1981East338.001501
Joe Barry Carroll1982East338.001502
Reggie Theus1982West338.001503
Sidney Moncrief1984East338.001504
Johnny Moore1983East320.001507
World B. Free1981West306.001508
Mike Gminski1982West302.001509
Dennis Johnson1980East295.001513
Alex English1982East284.001517
Moses Malone1982West266.001519
Moses Malone1980West259.001522
Alex English1984West238.001528
Adrian Dantley1982East227.001530
Bernard King1981East220.001532
Sidney Moncrief1981East220.001533
Johnny Moore1981West216.001535
Bernard King1984East212.001536
Maurice Cheeks1983East205.001538
Julius Erving1981East194.001541
Artis Gilmore1980West187.001543
Rickey Green1984West180.001549
Kevin McHale1981West169.001550
Sidney Moncrief1980East162.001551
Elvin Hayes1981East155.001556
Jamaal Wilkes1980West86.401568
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Re: NPBSL Mount Rushmore

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Really comprehensive work here. I'm not sure I fully understand the final table, but that doesn't matter much at the end of the day
3000 some word count +6
+2 more for the fully comprehensive work here
Somehow I manage.
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