#SLOE: People's Basketball Sim League

Hi all,

This was discussed in Skype chat, but would be interested in higher frequency (potentially daily) sims during quarantine. Would maybe be dependent on some additional Simmers (Doug/78?) but I think would be fun. Anyways, just throwing this out there for comment.

Business Daily or 7-Days-A-Week daily?

Business daily


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If it can be done without wearing Josh (and whoever else) out, I'd be on board.

I had some thoughts on this...some before quarantine even happened.

1. In general, I probably have the time to sim every business day if we do shorter sims.
2. In general, I think that after trade deadline, we could definitely speed things up...I do like having extra time to discuss trades.
3. I think anything we do during quarantine is probably going to carry over. Generally, I've had more work since having to work from home because it's not as easy for me to get things done from home as it is in the office and the uncertainty of the economy means I have more time sensitive changes to code.
4. I don't want to speed things up too much to the point where we're in the offseason more than the regular season. Sometimes the breathing room is nice, and I think there is a thing as going too fast.

I’d be interested in business daily. However, I am teleworking and have way more of an ability to do this. This would be somewhat of a burden with my real everyday life. So I think it should also be temporary, however deciding how long to do the sim blitz would also need to be discussed as well. I think it’s dependent upon a few things. Josh and his willingness to run the sims, the people who are still working somewhat regular schedules during this time.


I additionally like the idea of a vote, where all active team GMs would have to vote yes for it to pass.


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garbageman wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:58 pm I had some thoughts on this...some before quarantine even happened.

1. In general, I probably have the time to sim every business day if we do shorter sims.
2. In general, I think that after trade deadline, we could definitely speed things up...I do like having extra time to discuss trades.
3. I think anything we do during quarantine is probably going to carry over. Generally, I've had more work since having to work from home because it's not as easy for me to get things done from home as it is in the office and the uncertainty of the economy means I have more time sensitive changes to code.
4. I don't want to speed things up too much to the point where we're in the offseason more than the regular season. Sometimes the breathing room is nice, and I think there is a thing as going too fast.

Generally, I'm on the same thought process here. The regular season takes about 1 month IRL, then playoffs 1-2 weeks, then off-season 2-2.5 weeks. I think this is crucial to maintain this 2-month full league year schedule.

What would a schedule look like:
To maintain this while doing business daily sims, we would need to essentially divide 12 (15-ish days each sim, then last two sims are 10 days each) sims into 22-23 sims (7 or 8 days per sim for the 1st 20, then either 10 each for last 2 OR 7-ish each for the final month). Now this sounds like a burden to people in terms of more inputting or DC submission, you could skip every other sim (aka same) and you would be getting the same output that you would with our current sim schedule in terms of your work effort.

Current:
Sim 1 - End of Oct-Nov 15
Sim 2 - Nov 16-Nov 30
Sim 3 - Dec 1-Dec 15
Sim 4 - Dec 16-Dec 31
Sim 5 - Jan 1-Jan 15
Sim 6 - Jan 16-Jan 31
Sim 7 - Feb 1-Feb 14
Sim 8 - Feb 15-Feb 28/29
Sim 9 - Mar 1-Mar 15
Sim 10 - Mar 16-Mar 31
Sim 11 - 1st half of Reg Season April
Sim 12 - 2nd half of Reg Season April

Proposed:
Sim 1 - End of Oct-Nov 7
Sim 2 - Nov 8-Nov 15
Sim 3 - Nov 16-Nov 22
Sim 4 - Nov 23-Nov 30
Sim 5 - Dec 1-Dec 7
Sim 6 - Dec 8-Dec 15
Sim 7 - Dec 16-Dec 22
Sim 8 - Dec 23-Dec 31
Sim 9 - Jan 1-Jan 7
Sim 10 - Jan 8-Jan 15
Sim 11 - Jan 16-Jan 22
Sim 12 - Jan 23-Jan 31
Sim 13 - Feb 1-Feb 7
Sim 14 - Feb 8-Feb 14 (All-Star)
Sim 15 - Feb 15-Feb 21 (Trade Deadline)
Sim 16 - Feb 22-Feb 28/29
Sim 17 - Mar 1-Mar 7
Sim 18 - Mar 8-Mar 15
Sim 19 - Mar 16-Mar 22
Sim 20 - Mar 23-Mar 31
Sim 21 - Apr 1-Apr 6 OR Apr 1-Apr 10
Sim 22 - Apr 7-Apr 12 OR Apr 11-Apr 20(ish)
Sim 23 - Apr 13-Apr 20(ish) OR No Sim 23

Pros vs Cons:
Pros - Opportunity to play with gameplan (fun lineup changes or more specifically against teams) without committing so for 15 days of a season; Season duration lasts just as long as if no change occurs; D2D players can come back sooner instead of sitting on IR for a full sim (get players back quicker in your rotations without potential risk of re-injury while playing on D2D status)
Cons - More inputting; change to long standing schedule overall

DC Participation:
DC participation could be loosened up a bit too, that way if you wish to follow the old submission schedule of MWF, you wouldn't be penalized for missing Tues/Thursday DC submissions. We could give an extra bonus if you submit EVERY DC. Or we can eliminate DC participation all together, but I like points so I'd rather not do that.

I thought about proposing this a while ago, but wouldn't want to put additional burden on the commish and simmers. It seems convenient during quarantine, but I think reverting back post-quarantine would be necessary, too. If put to a vote and I'm the only dissent, I'll switch camps tho.

I'd be all for it, I thought about suggesting it, but I didn't know if the workload would be too much. I agree that it's probably better suited for post-deadline than before, since we won't have much time for trade talks otherwise. Quail's proposal sounds like the best way to do it if we do go for it though.

I'm willing to switch to Doug's schedule (starting with sim 7...April dates may vary) if 12 GMs approve by Monday. Otherwise, it can go to a vote for next season.

DC Participation points will remain the same, allowances will double.
0 absences, 5 points
1-2 absences, 4 points
3-4 absences, 3 points
5-6 absences, 2 points
7-8 absences, 1 point

Not sure if you're looking for approval here, but 'Approved'.

approve

I’m in on the Doug schedule

I'd approve this as well.

This may be the first “proposal” that wasn’t pointed at and made fun of! Yay!

Approved

I'd approve

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IamQuailman wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:55 pm This may be the first “proposal” that wasn’t pointed at and made fun of! Yay!

Approved

There's still time.

Approve

I vote yes

That’s 10 if you count Xist and 78s comments above as assent.

Seems to be majority consent so I approve


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TheSyndicate wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:34 pm That’s 10 if you count Xist and 78s comments above as assent.

Re-assent would be great. Xist's would be more appropriate to count because it came in after Doug's suggestions. To clarify, though, I would stick to M-F for the regular season and 7 days a week for the playoffs

I also dug in and did some math for tweaking this proposal for next season.
-If we want to keep to 20 sims/4 weeks for the regular season, we'd be looking at 8-9 days per sim.
-If we want to speed up the schedule a little bit while still having each sim play an extra game or to, we can do 10 day sim.
-If we want to get really granular, Doug's schedule seems to work best.
-At 7 days per sim, the ASB sim is going to be a weird sim. I might manually tweak the dates so that the ASB doesn't count towards the 7 days.
-We're going to have to be cognizant of the trade deadline.

Approve.

I like this idea. But yes, like others have stated, limit it to business days only.

garbageman wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:53 pm

TheSyndicate wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:34 pm That’s 10 if you count Xist and 78s comments above as assent.

Re-assent would be great. Xist's would be more appropriate to count because it came in after Doug's suggestions. To clarify, though, I would stick to M-F for the regular season and 7 days a week for the playoffs

I also dug in and did some math for tweaking this proposal for next season.
-If we want to keep to 20 sims/4 weeks for the regular season, we'd be looking at 8-9 days per sim.
-If we want to speed up the schedule a little bit while still having each sim play an extra game or to, we can do 10 day sim.
-If we want to get really granular, Doug's schedule seems to work best.
-At 7 days per sim, the ASB sim is going to be a weird sim. I might manually tweak the dates so that the ASB doesn't count towards the 7 days.
-We're going to have to be cognizant of the trade deadline.

I am very deferential to you on days per sim. Whatever makes the most sense. I think something (business) daily to look forward to is what I’m after.