#SLOE: People's Basketball Sim League

We have 4 essentially inactive teams in the league right now: Thunder, Clippers, Warriors, and Knicks. Knicks have stewards because the GM stepped down, but the other 3 have been pretty neglected for the entirety of this season (Thunder haven't been online since 7/31, Clippers 8/5, Warriors 8/12.. probably to see they lost Tatum in UFA and were like well Frye this).

I was going to go about listing out reasons for each team, but I didn't want to come off as attacking or petty. That said, recruiting for the league is getting harder these days, and finding GMs to take over teams that are in less than desirable situations and proving to them that the league is worth waiting out a long rebuild (college draft residual we all know by now) is really hard to do.

So what I am proposing is contraction. Cutting the league down from 30 to a smaller number. I'm not talking like a massive cut down, or even cutting down 4 teams. I'm talking 1 or maybe 2 teams getting shut down so that we don't have to worry 2 teams with 70mil in cap space and 0 UFA bids. We had a league with 29 teams for 20-something seasons. Reverting back to that isn't something we would have a hard time adjusting to. Just change the Bobcats name to whatever team is contracted and move em back out west

And if any of the GMs of the teams I listed here read this by some chance, please feel free to post here and tell me to STFU. Maybe you had something going on in life, and that is 100% understandable. But all we ask of GMs in this league is DCs and off-season participation. DCs are the easy part honestly now with TV. Writing articles, doing Pick'Ems, volunteering for positions is not a requirement by any means.

Whole-heartedly agree.

We also function in a league that's understanding of rough and/or busy times. A number of very active GMs have been able to 'coast' for a season or two here and there by maintaining a tiny effort and being in communication with the admin team. Don't think that's too much to ask.

Redraft and do away with college players???!?!

CHRIST that gif is giving me seizures

I think we've had conversations in the past about redrafts and moving away from college players.... like redraft from what year are you thinking? My biggest concern with a redraft is that it puts an exact drop dead date on the present league. Value of draft picks plummet to nothing. Value of young rookies is nothing. Teams at the bottom have nothing to play for, teams at the top have no incentive to not go deep into the tax.

Conroy wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:30 pm Redraft and do away with college players???!?!

YAS PLEASE, but not enough league-wide support I fear.

IamQuailman wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:37 pm I think we've had conversations in the past about redrafts and moving away from college players.... like redraft from what year are you thinking? My biggest concern with a redraft is that it puts an exact drop dead date on the present league. Value of draft picks plummet to nothing. Value of young rookies is nothing. Teams at the bottom have nothing to play for, teams at the top have no incentive to not go deep into the tax.

I think you just have to set the date super far in the future. If everyone knows the league ends in 2035, everyone has a chance to go all in. The last few years picks and young players will have no value but every one could prepare for that. It would be cool to have everyone competing in those last few seasons.

kucoach7 wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:29 pm

IamQuailman wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:37 pm I think we've had conversations in the past about redrafts and moving away from college players.... like redraft from what year are you thinking? My biggest concern with a redraft is that it puts an exact drop dead date on the present league. Value of draft picks plummet to nothing. Value of young rookies is nothing. Teams at the bottom have nothing to play for, teams at the top have no incentive to not go deep into the tax.

I think you just have to set the date super far in the future. If everyone knows the league ends in 2035, everyone has a chance to go all in. The last few years picks and young players will have no value but every one could prepare for that. It would be cool to have everyone competing in those last few seasons.

Yeah and maybe you could make the lottery teams determine the draft order for the redraft. Would give everyone something to play for.

Count me out for both

I’m all in for redrafting in the past.


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I'd have to take a pass on both options as well. I would cite options as being "harmful to the league".

I pass on both too.


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DarthVegito wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:43 pm I'd have to take a pass on both options as well. I would cite options as being "harmful to the league".

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Wait are people vetoing contraction or redraft way back? I'm confused

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IamQuailman wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:51 pm Wait are people vetoing contraction or redraft way back? I'm confused

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Seems like both, I think contraction is a no-brainer, but what do I know.

Yea I'm not sure why contraction is harmful to the league.... more harmful than neglected or vacant teams wasting away players?

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I think at this point it's something we have to consider. The Thunder have been minimally active for several seasons, as have the Clippers. Warriors management has been in and out. The Knicks are in good shape but only because the owner let us know he was leaving and the stewards could be set up quickly.

As we have a new recruit in the sign-up thread, I think we should probably keep the Thunder active (since he wants them). We should probably keep the Knicks active (since they're in good shape at the moment and having one team run by stewards isn't awful but having four teams is).

I would suggest we delay contraction for a season in an attempt to find owners for vacant teams (also this gets us to a point where teams to be contracted have all and only their own draft picks so contraction doesn't impact other teams). If we can't find owners for vacant teams by the end of next season, I would suggest the following:

1. Contract the Clippers and Warriors. Their players will enter the FA pool.

2. Re-align the league into four divisions of 7 teams. This will require one team currently in the East to move to the West (since all of the teams currently in the East have historically been Eastern Conference teams, perhaps we do a move-and-rename for one of the Eastern franchises; could either go back to an old west coast ABA team such as the Anaheim Amigos, Spirits of St. Louis, or San Diego Conquistadors... or rename to something completely new).