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Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:54 pm
by Inner_GI
Similar to getting points for improving your record, I think teams that lose 20 more games than previous years should have to pay 10 points.

Thoughts.

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:11 pm
by Xist2Inspire
Why?

Not being sarcastic, just wondering. "Tanking" is hard enough to define as it is, do we really need a big "anti-tanking" penalty?

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:59 pm
by WigNosy
The new point system no longer awards points directly for improvement year to year. Instead we now have one which awards points for total wins each season and win streaks each season, kind of does this already. Sell off your tram, lose more games, and you get fewer wins and streak points because you lose more.

So feature already exists, no need to get more punitive.

Also, to me the line between "rebuild" and "tank" (to me) is that rebuilding is selling off talent on your roster for future assets... and tanking is deliberately not playing talent you DO have on your roster in hopes of improving your draft standing. Trading a good player for picks or youth or even cap space? Not tanking. Sitting a good player so your team deliberately performs below it's talent level and your draft stock improves? Tanking.

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 6:32 am
by Darth Vegito
WigNosy wrote:The new point system no longer awards points directly for improvement year to year. Instead we now have one which awards points for total wins each season and win streaks each season, kind of does this already. Sell off your tram, lose more games, and you get fewer wins and streak points because you lose more.

So feature already exists, no need to get more punitive.

Also, to me the line between "rebuild" and "tank" (to me) is that rebuilding is selling off talent on your roster for future assets... and tanking is deliberately not playing talent you DO have on your roster in hopes of improving your draft standing. Trading a good player for picks or youth or even cap space? Not tanking. Sitting a good player so your team deliberately performs below it's talent level and your draft stock improves? Tanking.
Agree with your definitions. Selling off talent for future assets is totally a legit way to rebuild. Although I don't like the new point system as I feel it goes back to the old days of making the rich richer and kicking the rebuilding teams while they are down, I agree and definitely don't think teams that are rebuilding need to be shit on after they are kicked...lol

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:46 am
by 78#
I say get rid of the point system.

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 8:55 am
by NOLa.
Lol this thread

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 9:45 am
by IamQuailman
DarthVegito wrote:
WigNosy wrote:The new point system no longer awards points directly for improvement year to year. Instead we now have one which awards points for total wins each season and win streaks each season, kind of does this already. Sell off your tram, lose more games, and you get fewer wins and streak points because you lose more.

So feature already exists, no need to get more punitive.

Also, to me the line between "rebuild" and "tank" (to me) is that rebuilding is selling off talent on your roster for future assets... and tanking is deliberately not playing talent you DO have on your roster in hopes of improving your draft standing. Trading a good player for picks or youth or even cap space? Not tanking. Sitting a good player so your team deliberately performs below it's talent level and your draft stock improves? Tanking.
Agree with your definitions. Selling off talent for future assets is totally a legit way to rebuild. Although I don't like the new point system as I feel it goes back to the old days of making the rich richer and kicking the rebuilding teams while they are down, I agree and definitely don't think teams that are rebuilding need to be shit on after they are kicked...lol
Kinda, but new system puts more emphasis on participation and media, which isn't bad.

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:21 am
by ballsohard
DarthVegito wrote:
WigNosy wrote:The new point system no longer awards points directly for improvement year to year. Instead we now have one which awards points for total wins each season and win streaks each season, kind of does this already. Sell off your tram, lose more games, and you get fewer wins and streak points because you lose more.

So feature already exists, no need to get more punitive.

Also, to me the line between "rebuild" and "tank" (to me) is that rebuilding is selling off talent on your roster for future assets... and tanking is deliberately not playing talent you DO have on your roster in hopes of improving your draft standing. Trading a good player for picks or youth or even cap space? Not tanking. Sitting a good player so your team deliberately performs below it's talent level and your draft stock improves? Tanking.
Agree with your definitions. Selling off talent for future assets is totally a legit way to rebuild. Although I don't like the new point system as I feel it goes back to the old days of making the rich richer and kicking the rebuilding teams while they are down, I agree and definitely don't think teams that are rebuilding need to be shit on after they are kicked...lol
Technically they kick themselves, right :D ?

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:25 am
by Darth Vegito
ballsohard wrote:
DarthVegito wrote:
WigNosy wrote:The new point system no longer awards points directly for improvement year to year. Instead we now have one which awards points for total wins each season and win streaks each season, kind of does this already. Sell off your tram, lose more games, and you get fewer wins and streak points because you lose more.

So feature already exists, no need to get more punitive.

Also, to me the line between "rebuild" and "tank" (to me) is that rebuilding is selling off talent on your roster for future assets... and tanking is deliberately not playing talent you DO have on your roster in hopes of improving your draft standing. Trading a good player for picks or youth or even cap space? Not tanking. Sitting a good player so your team deliberately performs below it's talent level and your draft stock improves? Tanking.
Agree with your definitions. Selling off talent for future assets is totally a legit way to rebuild. Although I don't like the new point system as I feel it goes back to the old days of making the rich richer and kicking the rebuilding teams while they are down, I agree and definitely don't think teams that are rebuilding need to be shit on after they are kicked...lol
Technically they kick themselves, right :D ?
Lmao, pretty much. But it'd be hard to shit on yourself. :)

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:26 am
by Darth Vegito
IamQuailman wrote:
DarthVegito wrote:
WigNosy wrote:The new point system no longer awards points directly for improvement year to year. Instead we now have one which awards points for total wins each season and win streaks each season, kind of does this already. Sell off your tram, lose more games, and you get fewer wins and streak points because you lose more.

So feature already exists, no need to get more punitive.

Also, to me the line between "rebuild" and "tank" (to me) is that rebuilding is selling off talent on your roster for future assets... and tanking is deliberately not playing talent you DO have on your roster in hopes of improving your draft standing. Trading a good player for picks or youth or even cap space? Not tanking. Sitting a good player so your team deliberately performs below it's talent level and your draft stock improves? Tanking.
Agree with your definitions. Selling off talent for future assets is totally a legit way to rebuild. Although I don't like the new point system as I feel it goes back to the old days of making the rich richer and kicking the rebuilding teams while they are down, I agree and definitely don't think teams that are rebuilding need to be shit on after they are kicked...lol
Kinda, but new system puts more emphasis on participation and media, which isn't bad.
No those things aren't bad at all. I like that aspect of it.

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 3:51 pm
by Soundwave
So if BowtotheBill lost Kemp for the season he would be screwed??!!!?!!?!

Re: Anti-tanking point system

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 3:58 pm
by TrayWithAnA
Rebuild4Life