NEW - Rookie Contracts Training System

[WigNosy]

Effective with the offseason between seasons 27 and 28, the league moved to the following system for training for players on their rookie contracts per 2015-16 Proposition #2 vote (see viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4895). The system is enumerated below:

ELIGIBILITY

Players must be on their rookie contract in the season that they play the minutes to be eligible (i.e., this system applies through and including the offseason a player becomes eligible for RFA; 4 years for first round picks and 2 years for second round picks. If a player is cut from his rookie contract, these benefits are lost).

Players must play a number of minutes above a "threshold" number of minutes to qualify for free training.

This threshold is 500 times the player's years of experience in the league during the year he played the minutes (i.e., 0 for a rookie, 500 for a player with 1 year of experience, etc.) - note that a player gains 1 year of experience if he plays during any game in a regular season (pre-season appearances do not count).

"Years of experience" is not the same as "contract year" - for example, a player who is left on the bench all year in the first year of his contract is still considered a "rookie" with a threshold of 0 during the second year of his contract. If he was benched all that year, he would still be considered a "rookie" with a threshold of 0 during the third year of his contract and so on.

TRAINING AMOUNT

For every 500 minutes above the required threshold that a player plays during the four seasons of his rookie contract, he gets a "free" training increasing a current rating by 1 point the following offseason. Just as with paid trainings, in order to increase a current rating, the player's potential rating must be in the next "band" up (to raise a rating of 0-20 the player must have at least a D potential in the same rating; to raise a rating of 21-40 a player must have at least a C potential; to raise a rating of 41-60 a player must have at least a B potential; to raise a rating of 61-80 a player must have A potential; ratings of 81+ cannot be raised).

A player who qualifies for multiple trainings (e.g., by playing 1000 or more minutes) may choose to combine the increases or distribute them among multiple ratings (e.g., a rookie who played 1200 minutes qualifies for 2 trainings and could choose to go +2 in INS or +1 in INS and +1 in ORB; a player with one year of experience who played 2600 total minutes qualifies for 4 trainings since he is 2100 minutes over the threshold).

TRAINING FOUL RATING

You may choose to apply any number of "free" trainings to a player's foul rating instead of a "current" rating on a 1:1 basis.

TRAINING ATHLETIC RATING

If a player qualifies for at least 3 "free" trainings in a single season, he may instead increase an "athletic" rating (QKN, JMP, STR, STA) by 1 point in lieu of three free 1-point increases as long as this does not increase the rating past 81.

WHEN ARE INCREASES APPLIED?

Rating increases from Rookie Contract Training are applied following Training Camp just as Paid Trainings are.

COMBINING WITH PAID TRAINING

Rookie Contracts Training may be combined with Paid Training; points applied from Rookie Contract Training do NOT affect the limit of points applied during Paid Training.

Example 1: A player is eligible for 4 points of increase from Rookie Contract Training, and has a 28 rating with a B potential. Paid Training may be used to increase rating by the maximum allowed 10 points from Paid Training - from 28 to 38. Rookie Contract Training may also be applied to the same rating to increase from 38 to 42 for a total increase of +14.

Example 2: A player is eligible for 3 points of increase from Rookie Contract Training and has a 28 rating with a D potential. Paid Training may be used to increase the potential to a C. The player may then add the 3 points of increase from Rookie Contract Training to raise the current rating to 31.

SAMPLE ENTRY:

Assumes the use of Victor Oladipo from the 2015 season: http://pbsl.ijbl.net/2015/players/player581.htm

Victor Oladipo (Experience: 2 years, Threshold 1000)
Minutes Played: 3018; 2018 minutes above threshold played = 4 points RCT increase
STL 73->74 (1 point)
JMP 23->24 (cost of 3 points)

[WigNosy]

By the way, in the interest of helping everyone start getting used to this, I took the time to check every roster for eligible players - I think I got them all but if I missed your player, sorry. The +x RCT tells you how many points of Rookie Contract Training the player will be eligible for in the upcoming offseason. By my count, we have 153 points of improvement coming this coming offseason.

Don't expect me to do this every year. :p

Michael Carter-Williams, Nets (3 years Experience, 2222 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Buddy Pedraza, Nets (1 year experience, 3031 minutes played, +5 RCT)
F. Cole Medina, Nets (0 years experience, 752 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Chet Dooley, 76ers (1 year experience, 2554 minutes played, +4 RCT)
Van Grimaldi, 76ers (1 year experience, 2317 minutes played, +3 RCT)
Jusuf Nurkic, 76ers (2 years experience, 1886 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Thomas Bedard, Raptors (0 years experience, 1154 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Jarvis Chambers, Raptors (0 years experience, 675 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Phil Milburn, Raptors (1 year experience, 1339 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Ben McLemore, Raptors (3 years experience, 2121 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Refugio Lozano, Raptors (1 year experience, 1200 minutes played, +1 RCT)
James Hill, Celtics (1 year experience, 1658 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Chris Arruda, Celtics (0 years experience, 2010 minutes played, +4 RCT)
Melvin McCall, Celtics (0 years experience, 2766 minutes played, +5 RCT)
Elfrid Payton, Celtics (2 years experience, 2339 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Patrick Riordan, Celtics (0 years experience, 1158 minutes played, +2 RCT)
John Guy, Bulls (0 years experience, 860 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Zach LaVine, Bulls (2 years experience, 1758 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Victor Oladipo, Bulls (3 years experience, 2977 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Dewayne Dedmon, Pacers (3 years experience, 2192 minutes played, +1 RCT)
James Webster, Pacers (1 year experience, 710 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Odis Jackson, Pistons (1 year experience, 2369 minutes played, +3 RCT)
Rodney Hood, Pistons (2 years experience, 2621 minutes played, +3 RCT)
James Heise, Pistons (0 years experience, 522 minutes played, +1 RCT)
JaMychal Green, Bucks (2 years experience, 1669 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Hollis Thompson, Bucks (3 years experience, 2482 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Sean Kilpatrick, Bucks (2 years experience, 2020 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Buddy Hield, Bucks (0 years experience, 1467 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Dirk Hardpeck, Cavaliers (0 years experience, 2279 minutes played, +4 RCT)
Tyler Johnson, Cavaliers (2 years experience, 2149 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Daniel Randle, Hawks (1 year experience, 2154 minutes played, +3 RCT)
Alton Towers, Wizards (0 years experience, 2121 minutes played, +4 RCT)
Lloyd Hightower, Wizards (0 years experience, 1783 minutes played, +3 RCT)
Philip Bright, Wizards (0 years experience, 2167 minutes played, +4 RCT)
Jordan Clarkson, Wizards (2 years experience, 1989 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Sherwood Winger, Magic (0 years experience, 1497 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Vernon Desantis, Magic (0 years experience, 2108 minutes played, +4 RCT)
Dario Saric, Magic (2 years experience, 2783 minutes played, +3 RCT)
Harland Ellinger, Magic (1 year experience, 2553 minutes played, +4 RCT)
John Tittle, Magic (0 years experience, 1490 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Phillip Jamerson, Heat (1 year experience, 1323 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Gary Perez, Heat (0 years experience, 570 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Dmitry Larionov, Heat (0 years experience, 1488 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Kevin Wright, Bobcats (1 year experience, 1284 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Damion McNary, Bobcats (1 year experience, 1328 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Lavar Ball, Bobcats (0 years experience, 2731 minutes played, +5 RCT)
Lonzo Ball, Bobcats (0 years experience, 2928 minutes played, +5 RCT)
Otto Porter Jr., Timberwolves (3 years experience, 3036 minutes played, +3 RCT)
Andrew Wiggins, Timberwolves (2 years experience, 2928 minutes played, +3 RCT)
Jabari Parker, Thunder (2 years experience, 2399 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Newton Boatright, Jazz (0 years experience, 817 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Jeff Withey, Trailblazers (3 years experience, 2225 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Phil Hogg, Trailblazers (1 year experience, 1387 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Aubrey Broomfield, Trailblazers (1 year experience, 1049 minutes played, +1 RCT)
C.J. McCollum, Trailblazers (3 years experience, 2480 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Rudy Gobert, Warriors (3 years experience, 2984 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Gavin Book, Warriors (0 years experience, 730 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Brian Stark, Warriors (1 year experience, 2238 minutes played, +3 RCT)
Nerlens Noel, Kings (3 years experience, 2738 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Joel Embiid, Lakers (2 years experience, 1618 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Lakers (3 years experience, 2983 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Gustave LeCroix, Lakers (1 year experience, 2790 minutes played, +4 RCT)
James Peacock, Spurs (1 year experience, 1107 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Julius Randle, Spurs (2 years experience, 2196 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Isaias Stumpf, Spurs (0 years experience, 1374 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Dennis Schroder, Spurs (3 years experience, 3344 minutes played, +3 RCT)
Gorgui Dieng, Pelicans (3 years experience, 2467 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Vernon Norman, Pelicans (1 year experience, 1330 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Russell Gomez, Rockets (0 years experience, 842 minutes played, +1 RCT)
Gerard Carlsen, Mavericks (1 year experience, 1827 minutes played, +2 RCT)
Charles Tardiff, Mavericks (0 years experience, 1506 minutes played, +3 RCT)
Tim Frazier, Mavericks (2 years experience, 2049 minutes played, +2 RCT)

[Inner_GI]

Gary Harris and Jokic don't qualify?

[WigNosy]

Both qualify for +3. I think I skipped over the Knicks due to it being too soon after losing to you.

[digiskunk]

Buddy Pedraza, Nets (1 year experience, 3031 minutes played, +5 RCT)
Melvin McCall, Celtics (0 years experience, 2766 minutes played, +5 RCT)
Lavar Ball, Bobcats (0 years experience, 2731 minutes played, +5 RCT)
Lonzo Ball, Bobcats (0 years experience, 2928 minutes played, +5 RCT)

Really nice development here!

Also, it looks like the damn Ball family is taking over.. one free training session at a time!

[WigNosy]

I think the increased development tempo will help offset the rawness in the college imports.

[false9]

I don't see Jeffrey Duren or Kenneth Henderson anywhere

[RPF]

Ohh

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[Conroy]

Just curious about Patrick Riordan I think he was a 2nd rounder who was cut, then I signed. He's on this list but is he still eligible?

[IamQuailman]

I don't see Jeffrey Duren or Kenneth Henderson anywhere

Neither has the league

[IamQuailman]

WHEN ARE INCREASES APPLIED?

Rating increases from Rookie Contract Training are applied prior to Training Camp just as Paid Trainings are.

Just to clarify, this would be POST TC, right? Not prior? OG Rookie Trainings were done prior to TC, but paid trainings were always after. Just wanted to get the clarification!

[Eazy P]

Do we post rookie training here?

[WigNosy]

No, there will be a thread up after training camp.

[garbageman]

Question: Do RCT points carry over to the following year if we don't use them this year?

[WigNosy]

No. Just like the prior rookie training system, these are "use it or lose it."

[WigNosy]

IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT ROOKIE TRAININGS:

This seems to be the most common mistake I'm seeing so far in the training thread... rookie contract trainings act almost identically to paid trainings for increasing current ratings - in order to raise a current rating, the player's potential must be in the next band up! You can't just train any rating you want.

So if you have a rating of 45, you can't train unless potential is a B or higher. If you have a rating of 72 you can't train unless potential is A. Just like doing paid training for current ratings.

[garbageman]

IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT ROOKIE TRAININGS:

This seems to be the most common mistake I'm seeing so far in the training thread... rookie contract trainings act almost identically to paid trainings for increasing current ratings - in order to raise a current rating, the player's potential must be in the next band up! You can't just train any rating you want.

So if you have a rating of 45, you can't train unless potential is a B or higher. If you have a rating of 72 you can't train unless potential is A. Just like doing paid training for current ratings.

Also seeing some confusion on how to work with fractions. They're rounded up on a PER PLAYER basis, not an overall basis, right?

[WigNosy]

IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT ROOKIE TRAININGS:

This seems to be the most common mistake I'm seeing so far in the training thread... rookie contract trainings act almost identically to paid trainings for increasing current ratings - in order to raise a current rating, the player's potential must be in the next band up! You can't just train any rating you want.

So if you have a rating of 45, you can't train unless potential is a B or higher. If you have a rating of 72 you can't train unless potential is A. Just like doing paid training for current ratings.

Also seeing some confusion on how to work with fractions. They're rounded up on a PER PLAYER basis, not an overall basis, right?

Yup.

[WigNosy]

This system was removed in 2019 Propositions voting and is no longer valid.