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Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:00 pm
by IamQuailman
Quick n Eazy. DC entry for regular season can be done via TeamViewer node or by DC thread.
Proposition 1
to add additional motivation to inputting via node: 2 pts. Why? Why not help alleviate some of the burden off inputters? No one will be forced to input via node; threads will still be there to track paeticipation.
Proposition 2
Change particiaption awards for DCs. 5pts for perfect attendance, 3pts for 1 missed, 1pt for 2 missed. 0 for anything more than 2.
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Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:04 pm
by garbageman
For proposition 1 can you clarify?
Do ALL DCs need to be input via node for 2 pts? I use TV whenever I can, but sometimes my home internet's spotty, the node goes down, or I'm waiting on a trade / signing and have to input from my work computer, which I can't download TV on.
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:04 pm
by IamQuailman
That's a good point. I didnt think about that. I would say make it percentage based. 100% (12 sims) 3pts, 66.66666667% (8 sims) 2pts, 33.333333% (4 sims) 1pt.
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Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:06 pm
by IamQuailman
Its mostly incentive to help minimize inputter workload. Wig and 78 bust their butts inputting almost and this would help minimize input fatigue (its real lol)
I think nodes can be used to input FAs too, cant remember tbh. May need wig to clarify. If thats the case, id be willing to say an extra point for inputting your own UFA bids (because that alone is Fryeing brutal)
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Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:08 pm
by IamQuailman
A tab can be kept to reconcile the ftp imports each sim, this could be lumped into DC participation's job description
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Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:23 pm
by NOLa.
Yeah we can use nodes to input our own bids. I like the idea, but we would need the support from the DC Participation volunteer to keep track of it as well since he would be keeping records of this.
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Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:55 pm
by TheSyndicate
I also don't mind - but I can't find the resources for how to do it yourself via TV. Anyone available to help a nugget out?
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:22 pm
by Inner_GI
In the event of a trade, there is no way for someone to use the node for most of the league, and they would be at a disadvantage to getting 100%. Just wanted to put that out there.
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Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:52 am
by WigNosy
IamQuailman wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:06 pm
Its mostly incentive to help minimize inputter workload. Wig and 78 bust their butts inputting almost and this would help minimize input fatigue (its real lol)
I think nodes can be used to input FAs too, cant remember tbh. May need wig to clarify. If thats the case, id be willing to say an extra point for inputting your own UFA bids (because that alone is Fryeing brutal)
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Yes, nodes can be used to input FA bids.
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:55 am
by WigNosy
IamQuailman wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:08 pm
A tab can be kept to reconcile the ftp imports each sim, this could be lumped into DC participation's job description
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Note that the Human Coaches page -
http://pbsl.ijbl.net/humancoaches.htm - gives "Last Import" date - while this would need to be screenshotted after every sim, it is an extremely easy way to see who did send an FTP file for import because the "Last Import" date will be the same as the sim date (or, if you prefer, the "Page Generation" date down at the bottom of the HTML output pages).
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:55 am
by WigNosy
Inner_GI wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:22 pm
In the event of a trade, there is no way for someone to use the node for most of the league, and they would be at a disadvantage to getting 100%. Just wanted to put that out there.
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This is an excellent point.
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:56 am
by WigNosy
TheSyndicate wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:55 pm
I also don't mind - but I can't find the resources for how to do it yourself via TV. Anyone available to help a nugget out?
viewtopic.php?p=26682#p26682
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:20 am
by WigNosy
Also, I should note at present 17 teams have either asked that nodes be set up or have access to input on the main computer. There are 12 teams that do not yet have access (because they haven't requested it):
Nets
Heat
Wizards
Cavaliers
Pistons
Hornets
Nuggets
Grizzlies
Spurs
Lakers
Supersonics
Suns
So right now roughly 60% of the league can "do their own" to take the strain off inputters.
You may ask - why do some of these teams that can't do their own have "last input dates?" Because one of the ways inputters can hedge against a PC crash and file corruption is to export to FTP after entering DCs or especially bids for a team.
One final note: the TeamViewer app is not limited to Windows. It is also available on iOS and Android, so if you get a node set up, you can enter your DC on your smart phone.
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:52 am
by garbageman
WigNosy wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:20 am
One final note: the TeamViewer app is not limited to Windows. It is also available on iOS and Android, so if you get a node set up, you can enter your DC on your smart phone.
Also works on Linux systems!
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:54 am
by Inner_GI
WigNosy wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:20 am
Also, I should note at present 17 teams have either asked that nodes be set up or have access to input on the main computer. There are 12 teams that do not yet have access (because they haven't requested it):
Nets
Heat
Wizards
Cavaliers
Pistons
Hornets
Nuggets
Grizzlies
Spurs
Lakers
Supersonics
Suns
So right now roughly 60% of the league can "do their own" to take the strain off inputters.
You may ask - why do some of these teams that can't do their own have "last input dates?" Because one of the ways inputters can hedge against a PC crash and file corruption is to export to FTP after entering DCs or especially bids for a team.
One final note: the TeamViewer app is not limited to Windows. It is also available on iOS and Android, so if you get a node set up, you can enter your DC on your smart phone.
This is awesome news. I've been wishing I could access the node from work via a mobile device. WOOT!
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:01 am
by ballsohard
I input my stuff via team viewer
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:19 am
by IamQuailman
How about if you input 75% of your DCs via TV/node, you qualify for pts? That way it allows some wiggle for teams that make multiple trades in the season.
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:21 am
by Inner_GI
That may work. How would we count someone inputting via TV in sim 1 and going same the rest of the way. Does that qualify for bonus points?
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:28 am
by IamQuailman
Inner_GI wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:21 am
That may work. How would we count someone inputting via TV in sim 1 and going same the rest of the way. Does that qualify for bonus points?
I think as long as they create a ftp file from their node to be imported, i think it would count; that's the one spot where the inputted would just need to screenshot or tally the FTP peeps (for reference).
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:31 am
by Inner_GI
So we will require an upload 75% of the time. That makes it pretty easy to track, I think.
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:43 am
by IamQuailman
Should be
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:46 am
by ballsohard
WigNosy wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:55 am
IamQuailman wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:08 pm
A tab can be kept to reconcile the ftp imports each sim, this could be lumped into DC participation's job description
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Note that the Human Coaches page -
http://pbsl.ijbl.net/humancoaches.htm - gives "Last Import" date - while this would need to be screenshotted after every sim, it is an extremely easy way to see who did send an FTP file for import because the "Last Import" date will be the same as the sim date (or, if you prefer, the "Page Generation" date down at the bottom of the HTML output pages).
How hard would it to be to write a script to pull this information ?
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:46 am
by ballsohard
Also how do we account for nodes going same? Forum post?
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:53 am
by IamQuailman
ballsohard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:46 am
Also how do we account for nodes going same? Forum post?
2 options: same via dc thread or have them create a file even tho they stayed same.
Re: Node Usage Rewards/dC
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:56 am
by ballsohard
IamQuailman wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:53 am
ballsohard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:46 am
Also how do we account for nodes going same? Forum post?
2 options: same via dc thread or have them create a file even tho they stayed same.
Bitch you dont know. (J/K)