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Team Option Years
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:11 am
by WigNosy
Been thinking about suggesting this one for a while and the last couple seasons of Free Agency have convinced me it's time to do so.
The Perceived Problem: Teams are offering "2 years, team option" contracts with no intention of honoring the second year as a way to make their one-year offers look more attractive to Free Agents. In other words, these are "bad faith" offers.
Possible Solution #1: "Team option" years can only be offered on contracts at least 3 years in length.
Possible Solution #2: Teams may only decline one non-rookie team option per year (may still decline any number of rookie option years).
I'm opening this for discussion:
1. Do you think there is a problem?
2. If there is a problem, do you prefer solution 1, solution 2, both, or do you have a third solution I haven't mentioned above?
Re: Team Option Years
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:00 pm
by Inner_GI
Are you saying you can only decline one team option (non rookie) and year, or are you saying a gm can only decline one 1+1 team option a year.
Re: Team Option Years
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:36 pm
by Bowtothebill23
Would like to add to the debate. I've been going back and forth on this. Devil's advocate: I might sign an old guy to a 1+1 deal so that if he comes in and isn't nailed by TC too bad and contributes more than I thought he would, I can subsequently pick up his option. Not every 1+1 is done with the sole intention of declining the option.
Re: Team Option Years
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:32 pm
by IamQuailman
Bowtothebill23 wrote:Would like to add to the debate. I've been going back and forth on this. Devil's advocate: I might sign an old guy to a 1+1 deal so that if he comes in and isn't nailed by TC too bad and contributes more than I thought he would, I can subsequently pick up his option. Not every 1+1 is done with the sole intention of declining the option.
Unless your name is Loco.
I don't know if this is the appropriate place to do this, but I think 2 year team option contracts in RFA should be eliminated as well... it's effectively a 1yr deal. Or was this removed already?
Re: Team Option Years
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:35 pm
by 78#
I'm in favor of keeping it for UFAs. Training camp plays a big role in determining whether to accept options. Plus team options make more trades happen. I would be against changing the rules.
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Re: Team Option Years
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:54 am
by kucoach7
I am a big proponent of bad faith contracts. An option is an option and a player knows what that means. I like them and am not sure I see a problem here other than you could think that this as possibly tricking the game. If this is really in need of a "solution" I would go with solution 1. Solution 2 seems extreme. Either way bad faith contracts can still happen though.
Re: Team Option Years
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:33 pm
by WigNosy
78# wrote:Training camp plays a big role in determining whether to accept options.
Have to admit, this is a REALLY good argument.
Re: Team Option Years
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:16 pm
by IamQuailman
IamQuailman wrote:I don't know if this is the appropriate place to do this, but I think 2 year team option contracts in RFA should be eliminated as well... it's effectively a 1yr deal. Or was this removed already?
Re: Team Option Years
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:27 pm
by LoCo89
IamQuailman wrote:IamQuailman wrote:I don't know if this is the appropriate place to do this, but I think 2 year team option contracts in RFA should be eliminated as well... it's effectively a 1yr deal. Or was this removed already?
Sooooo instead of looking you just quote it again?
From the last RFA list thread:
If desired, may designate the final year of a deal of 3 or more seasons as "team option" or "player option" (if neither is selected, the default is "guaranteed")
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Re: Team Option Years
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:29 pm
by IamQuailman
LoCo89 wrote:IamQuailman wrote:IamQuailman wrote:I don't know if this is the appropriate place to do this, but I think 2 year team option contracts in RFA should be eliminated as well... it's effectively a 1yr deal. Or was this removed already?
Sooooo instead of looking you just quote it again?
From the last RFA list thread:
If desired, may designate the final year of a deal of 3 or more seasons as "team option" or "player option" (if neither is selected, the default is "guaranteed")
2 minutes to find and post
Thanks for answering the question, Lou!