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Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:59 pm
by WigNosy
Original thread here: http://fbbsimleague.proboards.com/threa ... m-proposal

Only the "Executive Summary" of Points Awards proposed is included in this post for discussion. I propose the subject of "rewards for playing rookies" be tackled in a completely different set of threads (especially since I had a new suggestion to add anyway).

PLAYER REWARDS - ALL OF THE BELOW ARE CUMULATIVE

Player Makes All-Star Team - 2 points
Player Wins All-Star MVP - 1 point
Player Participates in Dunk Contest or Three-Point Shootout - 1 point
Player wins Dunk Contest or Three-Point Shootout - 1 point

Player Wins League MVP - 3 points
Player wins Defensive Player of the Year - 3 points
Player wins Rookie of the Year - 2 point

Player named by Computer as 6th Man of the Year - 1 points
Player wins owners vote for 6th Man of the Year - 2 points
Player named by Computer as Most Improved Player - 1 points
Player wins owners vote for Most Improved Player - 2 points

Player Makes All-League First Team - 3 points
Player Makes All-League Second Team - 2 points
Player Makes All-League Third Team - 1 point
Player Makes All-Defense Team (First or Second Team) - 1 point
Player Makes All-Rookie Team (First or Second Team) - 1 point

Player finishes in the top 5 in Scoring, Rebounding, Assists, Steals, or Blocks - 1 point
Player leads league in one of the above categories - 1 point
Player finishes in the top 3 in FG%, 3%, or FT% - 1 point

Player averages a double-double for the season - 2 points

TEAM REWARDS - ALL OF THE BELOW ARE CUMULATIVE

Team Wins Division - 2 points
Team makes Playoffs - 3 points
Team Wins Playoff Series - 4 points per series
Every 5 regular-season games won (round all fractions down) - 1 point
Regular Season Win Streak - Each team receives points equal to longest win streak during the regular season divided by two (round fractions down).
Computer names you GMOY: 3 points
League votes you GMOY: 5 points

OWNER FORUM ACTIVITY:

Preseason Press Conference - up to 5 points
Media entry (League Article/Podcast) - up to 5 points each, maximum of 15 points per season
Vote on Year-End Awards - 4 points
League Responsibility (e.g., Pick 'Em Coordinator) - up to 5 points per season, counts toward media entry maximum

Regular Season Depth Chart Submissions
No unexcused absences - 5 points
One unexcused absence - 4 points
Two unexcused absences - 3 points
Three unexcused absences - 2 points
Four unexcused absences - 1 point

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:31 pm
by NOLa.
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Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:04 am
by TheSyndicate
For media points, I like what I've done this year in removing the 5-pt cap (like conroys piece). Anyone mind removing that here? I like the total media cap, though.

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:57 am
by ballsohard
TheSyndicate wrote:For media points, I like what I've done this year in removing the 5-pt cap (like conroys piece). Anyone mind removing that here? I like the total media cap, though.
That should have gone through this committee and still should.

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:13 am
by Conroy
TheSyndicate wrote:For media points, I like what I've done this year in removing the 5-pt cap (like conroys piece). Anyone mind removing that here? I like the total media cap, though.
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Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:16 am
by Inner_GI
ballsohard wrote:
TheSyndicate wrote:For media points, I like what I've done this year in removing the 5-pt cap (like conroys piece). Anyone mind removing that here? I like the total media cap, though.
That should have gone through this committee and still should.
+1

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:24 am
by IamQuailman
TheSyndicate wrote:For media points, I like what I've done this year in removing the 5-pt cap (like conroys piece). Anyone mind removing that here? I like the total media cap, though.
I missed addressing this due to being swamped in house-buying/wedding stuff pretty much every weekend I'm home now, but I agree with what Balls said and Inner's +1. While a change like that doesn't affect the # of points a team can receive via media in a season, any substantial changes (I would consider these changes substantial) to the means of awarding points should be approved/voted on. The same thing happened when Nick tried to up the award total for the pick 'em. I'm not just nitpicking, but I do think it is a change that needs to be fleshed out and approved by the league as a whole.

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:26 am
by IamQuailman
IamQuailman wrote:
TheSyndicate wrote:For media points, I like what I've done this year in removing the 5-pt cap (like conroys piece). Anyone mind removing that here? I like the total media cap, though.
I missed addressing this due to being swamped in house-buying/wedding stuff pretty much every weekend I'm home now, but I agree with what Balls said and Inner's +1. While a change like that doesn't affect the # of points a team can receive via media in a season, any substantial changes (I would consider these changes substantial) to the means of awarding points should be approved/voted on. The same thing happened when Nick tried to up the award total for the pick 'em. I'm not just nitpicking, but I do think it is a change that needs to be fleshed out and approved by the league as a whole.
That said, I do like the forward-thinking and pro-activeness you brought with the changes. I don't want to discourage changing things up, especially if it could be for the better. But discussion needs to be part of the process.

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:06 pm
by TheSyndicate
That's just different than before when the owners of these processes could make changes to their areas as long as they in general didn't add or subtract from the total points awarded. If everything is going to be voted on by the entire league, then do we really need owners?

Also. I made a post, what, 3 weeks ago on the changes, no one suggested it be moved for discussion, in fact no one said anything. I know you say you're not trying to discourage proactiveness, but you are.

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:21 pm
by TheSyndicate
But that's just, like, my opinion.

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:25 pm
by Conroy
I feel like I wasted my fist pumping cal gif on a thread that started breaking serious so I hope nobody gets mad when I re use it later

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:31 pm
by TheSyndicate
I dunno, Roy, maybe we need to vote on whether or not to get mad when you re-use it later. :D

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:16 pm
by ballsohard
TheSyndicate wrote:That's just different than before when the owners of these processes could make changes to their areas as long as they in general didn't add or subtract from the total points awarded. If everything is going to be voted on by the entire league, then do we really need owners?

Also. I made a post, what, 3 weeks ago on the changes, no one suggested it be moved for discussion, in fact no one said anything. I know you say you're not trying to discourage proactiveness, but you are.
You're right. It was a mistake no one suggested this be voted on 3 weeks ago. I'm glad we agree. This doesn't discourage proactive ness, it adds procedure and thoughtfulness to being proactive.


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Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:46 pm
by IamQuailman
TheSyndicate wrote:That's just different than before when the owners of these processes could make changes to their areas as long as they in general didn't add or subtract from the total points awarded. If everything is going to be voted on by the entire league, then do we really need owners?

Also. I made a post, what, 3 weeks ago on the changes, no one suggested it be moved for discussion, in fact no one said anything. I know you say you're not trying to discourage proactiveness, but you are.
That is incorrect. Any time I made any changes to media point awarding, I had to run it by darth. (we didn't really vote back then as a league on what to do). As for needing owners, yes. The purpose of the owner is to handle the area they own throughout the season to make sure the tasks get done (and get point compensation for doing said tasks). But if somewhat substantial changes are to be made to a long standing media point allocation system (of 9 seasons), then it should be voted on.

As for me not catching the change 12 days ago (not 3 weeks), shit's been pretty hectic and to be honest, I forgot about it until Conroy got his pts this week and in this thread. So take this as me suggesting it should be revisited.

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:40 pm
by IamQuailman
IamQuailman wrote:
TheSyndicate wrote:That's just different than before when the owners of these processes could make changes to their areas as long as they in general didn't add or subtract from the total points awarded. If everything is going to be voted on by the entire league, then do we really need owners?

Also. I made a post, what, 3 weeks ago on the changes, no one suggested it be moved for discussion, in fact no one said anything. I know you say you're not trying to discourage proactiveness, but you are.
That is incorrect. Any time I made any changes to media point awarding, I had to run it by darth. (we didn't really vote back then as a league on what to do). As for needing owners, yes. The purpose of the owner is to handle the area they own throughout the season to make sure the tasks get done (and get point compensation for doing said tasks). But if somewhat substantial changes are to be made to a long standing media point allocation system (of 9 seasons), then it should be voted on.

As for me not catching the change 12 days ago (not 3 weeks), shit's been pretty hectic and to be honest, I forgot about it until Conroy got his pts this week and in this thread. So take this as me suggesting it should be revisited.
I'm going to take bump this post right here.

Re: Revamped Point System Proposal

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:22 am
by IamQuailman
Reminder that suggestions will close on all new ideas at the end of the regular season (beginning of 1st postseason DC lock)

PLEASE DISCUSS