#SLOE: People's Basketball Sim League

MexicanMamba wrote:I did this once in but I probably could have done it even more and built it into the DNA of the league: League rule votes. I'm mostly popping this in because of the ideas people are currently shooting out, but maybe it would be a good idea to periodically (if not every offseason, then some set amount of seasons) add a section of the off-season that is specifically set aside to vote on league issues/rules. Maybe at the trade deadline or sim 12 of the previous season, there's a post created where GMs can propose rule/league changes (that can actually be done. Sorry Varga, and your hopes of eliminating the lotto. It's not an option) and then in the off-season they are put to an official vote. Can be the NBA Board of Governors or NFL League Owner Meetings equivalent. I'm sure it'd need some fine tuning but it could be something that'd keep the league from growing more stagnant than it is, especially for old timers who need change and new challenges.



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BigDaddyd8720 wrote:As a new GM, one thing I’d like to see if for everyone to stop beating me. I want to win more games but don’t want to try that hard.

Jk. I don’t have many complaints outside of my team’s low win rate. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed this league.

But one suggestion I do is have (and forgive me if this is somewhere already) is to have some sort of guide that can new people with progressing their players and setting helpful DCs. I’m finishing year 2 and I’m still iffy on what traits to upgrade for players in the off-season that can help make that jump from one tier to the next. Also, the DCs have been a bit more difficult to understand than I originally thought. Maybe something for new people to say “hey if you do this on offense, then look into also doing this”. Just so I don’t have to feel like I’m randomly setting game plans and hoping for the best.

And this isn’t anyone’s fault but my own for not asking the right questions but maybe having something in place might help future new GMs.

P.S. I know about the article that explains how to set the DC, just looking for something that might help with setting a game plan that coincides with each other on offense and defense


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MexicanMamba wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 4:25 pm Oh, and ... let's go to 8 seeds in the playoffs with no more byes! Yeah, I know that only leaves 10 in the lotto but, hey, let's see if weird shit can't happen once in awhile.

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Jedihero wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:24 am I'm still very new to this league and its systems, but one thing I would like to see changed is access to the information about our players. I'm not sure how much work actually goes into that from a behind the scenes standpoint so feel free to tell me to STFU, but I keep hearing about all these hidden values regarding players stats and potentials, but none of them are accessible to the average league member. I think it would help with training/Depth Chart/ season planning if we were able to get a detailed rundown of all our players and see what we are really working with and how we can better improve our guys.

garbageman wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 5:25 pm

MexicanMamba wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 4:25 pm Oh, and ... let's go to 8 seeds in the playoffs with no more byes! Yeah, I know that only leaves 10 in the lotto but, hey, let's see if weird shit can't happen once in awhile.

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+1

Also, In Season Tournament...@Black Superman, make it happen!

Mike Lowry wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 5:50 pm

Jedihero wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:24 am I'm still very new to this league and its systems, but one thing I would like to see changed is access to the information about our players. I'm not sure how much work actually goes into that from a behind the scenes standpoint so feel free to tell me to STFU, but I keep hearing about all these hidden values regarding players stats and potentials, but none of them are accessible to the average league member. I think it would help with training/Depth Chart/ season planning if we were able to get a detailed rundown of all our players and see what we are really working with and how we can better improve our guys.

I have never been engaged in this league enough to make this request.
I mostly just thank the trusted servants when I frye the process, but I have harbored some amount of resentment ever since it was brought to my attention.
It's an incredible advantage!

LazyTitanSmash wrote:

Mike Lowry wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 5:50 pm

Jedihero wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:24 am I'm still very new to this league and its systems, but one thing I would like to see changed is access to the information about our players. I'm not sure how much work actually goes into that from a behind the scenes standpoint so feel free to tell me to STFU, but I keep hearing about all these hidden values regarding players stats and potentials, but none of them are accessible to the average league member. I think it would help with training/Depth Chart/ season planning if we were able to get a detailed rundown of all our players and see what we are really working with and how we can better improve our guys.

I have never been engaged in this league enough to make this request.
I mostly just thank the trusted servants when I frye the process, but I have harbored some amount of resentment ever since it was brought to my attention.
It's an incredible advantage!

Yeah I wish it was a lock box. Since I would have to ask about every player I sign, draft, trade or even propose trading for.... Also it tell you what they will turn into, so we are GM's who can see the future, I don't think that makes sense.

MexicanMamba wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:31 pm

LazyTitanSmash wrote:

Mike Lowry wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 5:50 pm

I have never been engaged in this league enough to make this request.
I mostly just thank the trusted servants when I frye the process, but I have harbored some amount of resentment ever since it was brought to my attention.
It's an incredible advantage!

Yeah I wish it was a lock box. Since I would have to ask about every player I sign, draft, trade or even propose trading for.... Also it tell you what they will turn into, so we are GM's who can see the future, I don't think that makes sense.

The person who actually runs the league and completes specific tasks, like processing trainings and TC or RFA, is really the only person who will consistently see a ton of this extra information. For them, it's just unavoidable as part of the job. This is why I was always vocal about my door being open to passing out any information that was requested when I was in charge, since theres just no way that I was aware of to really make every single detail public. Not without giving out the admin password to every single GM, but thats just asking for mistakes and chaos and multiple resims a season. Or just accidentally deleting the entire league ha.

Other than the active commish, the only people who could even potentially access that info are other people who have ever been commissioner, like Josh and I, and after you give up those duties, believe me, you're not rushing to log in and scope things out quite as much as you used to have to.

That being said, there definitely is some benefit to having more knowledge. I've seen Josh admit the same numerous times over the years. It's not so much knowledge of any individual player at any given time that is the most beneficial though. You just learn what to look for in players in general. However, even that kind of knowledge is no guarantee of piling together championships. I'm the prime example to that. There's a lot of high-level and successful GMs who have never been commissioner. Jon ran off 3 straight finals, K100 wins rings whenever he's not in tax hell, Rockets went to three straight finals, Carlos has won a bundle of rings, Charlie's got a ring and it couldve been at least one more without an early reset, and the Wizards are always finding success. Now we have some teams stringing together quality seasons like the Cavs, Nuggets, and hopefully your Mavs.

I know Nate is continuing the tradition of encouraging people to come to him for information and advice when it's wanted or needed. I advise folks to take him up on that. And for the newer folks who didn't know they could talk to people for information? Blame your mentors, cause they should've known to tell you too 🫢🫣






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LazyTitanSmash wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 8:24 pm

MexicanMamba wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:31 pm

LazyTitanSmash wrote:
Yeah I wish it was a lock box. Since I would have to ask about every player I sign, draft, trade or even propose trading for.... Also it tell you what they will turn into, so we are GM's who can see the future, I don't think that makes sense.

The person who actually runs the league and completes specific tasks, like processing trainings and TC or RFA, is really the only person who will consistently see a ton of this extra information. For them, it's just unavoidable as part of the job. This is why I was always vocal about my door being open to passing out any information that was requested when I was in charge, since theres just no way that I was aware of to really make every single detail public. Not without giving out the admin password to every single GM, but thats just asking for mistakes and chaos and multiple resims a season. Or just accidentally deleting the entire league ha.

Other than the active commish, the only people who could even potentially access that info are other people who have ever been commissioner, like Josh and I, and after you give up those duties, believe me, you're not rushing to log in and scope things out quite as much as you used to have to.

That being said, there definitely is some benefit to having more knowledge. I've seen Josh admit the same numerous times over the years. It's not so much knowledge of any individual player at any given time that is the most beneficial though. You just learn what to look for in players in general. However, even that kind of knowledge is no guarantee of piling together championships. I'm the prime example to that. There's a lot of high-level and successful GMs who have never been commissioner. Jon ran off 3 straight finals, K100 wins rings whenever he's not in tax hell, Rockets went to three straight finals, Carlos has won a bundle of rings, Charlie's got a ring and it couldve been at least one more without an early reset, and the Wizards are always finding success. Now we have some teams stringing together quality seasons like the Cavs, Nuggets, and hopefully your Mavs.

I know Nate is continuing the tradition of encouraging people to come to him for information and advice when it's wanted or needed. I advise folks to take him up on that. And for the newer folks who didn't know they could talk to people for information? Blame your mentors, cause they should've known to tell you too 🫢🫣






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What if on the honor system only the current commish accessed the player page and only when necessary? That way we would not need to ask for player pages and everyone would be equally ignorant, except the current commish which is fine because commish is the most necessary and hardest job, so whatever.

LazyTitanSmash wrote:

LazyTitanSmash wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 8:24 pm

MexicanMamba wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:31 pm The person who actually runs the league and completes specific tasks, like processing trainings and TC or RFA, is really the only person who will consistently see a ton of this extra information. For them, it's just unavoidable as part of the job. This is why I was always vocal about my door being open to passing out any information that was requested when I was in charge, since theres just no way that I was aware of to really make every single detail public. Not without giving out the admin password to every single GM, but thats just asking for mistakes and chaos and multiple resims a season. Or just accidentally deleting the entire league ha.

Other than the active commish, the only people who could even potentially access that info are other people who have ever been commissioner, like Josh and I, and after you give up those duties, believe me, you're not rushing to log in and scope things out quite as much as you used to have to.

That being said, there definitely is some benefit to having more knowledge. I've seen Josh admit the same numerous times over the years. It's not so much knowledge of any individual player at any given time that is the most beneficial though. You just learn what to look for in players in general. However, even that kind of knowledge is no guarantee of piling together championships. I'm the prime example to that. There's a lot of high-level and successful GMs who have never been commissioner. Jon ran off 3 straight finals, K100 wins rings whenever he's not in tax hell, Rockets went to three straight finals, Carlos has won a bundle of rings, Charlie's got a ring and it couldve been at least one more without an early reset, and the Wizards are always finding success. Now we have some teams stringing together quality seasons like the Cavs, Nuggets, and hopefully your Mavs.

I know Nate is continuing the tradition of encouraging people to come to him for information and advice when it's wanted or needed. I advise folks to take him up on that. And for the newer folks who didn't know they could talk to people for information? Blame your mentors, cause they should've known to tell you too 🫢🫣






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What if on the honor system only the current commish accessed the player page and only when necessary? That way we would not need to ask for player pages and everyone would be equally ignorant, except the current commish which is fine because commish is the most necessary and hardest job, so whatever.