Training Camp Results

TheSyndicate · Post by **TheSyndicate** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:23 pm

Nuggets please.

NOLa. · Post by **NOLa.** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:25 pm

TheSyndicate wrote:Nuggets please.

logpmess · Post by **logpmess** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:54 pm

I have never in my life of sim league seen a young guy turn from b/b to g/g at 23 years old. But that's life outside of the shadow council that "doesn't exist". Someone else document that happening to anyone else.....

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Inner_GI · Post by **Inner_GI** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:09 am

logpmess wrote:I have never in my life of sim league seen a young guy turn from b/b to g/g at 23 years old. But that's life outside of the shadow council that "doesn't exist". Someone else document that happening to anyone else.....

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Me. It's happened to me. Actually Jermaine might have been even younger.

Can't remember how old ai was but it was probably around 22-25 as well

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Inner_GI · Post by **Inner_GI** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:15 am

So I decided to check. I had a b/b. Allen iverson go to g/g at 25 and a b/b jermaine o'neal go to g/g at 22. I think certain teams are cursed.

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Post by **IamQuailman** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:15 am

logpmess wrote:I have never in my life of sim league seen a young guy turn from b/b to g/g at 23 years old. But that's life outside of the shadow council that "doesn't exist". Someone else document that happening to anyone else.....

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A) i hope no one is being accused of tampering, because that would be <expletive deleted> up. There isnt a "shadow council" anymore. Wig and 78 handle most of the inputting. Darth, scott and I help when we can (not that often tbh). So im not sure what that is referencing.

B) young players die all the time. Go look at Brandon Roy on the Wizards (circa this TC). Amare stoudemire went from green blue to green green in his 3rd TC. That was a player on an aforementioned shadow council/commissioner's team. I had to pay training to get his blue back. Larry johnson in the 3rd tc of this game went blue blue to green green (on scotts team). Ask NOLa about deng getting his potentials killed (altho maintained his B/b). Young players get hit all the time. Hence why TC Insurance was voted in and available. Im not sure who on your team got hit this TC. TC is a shitshow crap shoot; always has been. Always will be.

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logpmess · Post by **logpmess** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:25 am

So when am I getting an example of someone dropping that much after a rookie contract?

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Soundwave · Post by **Soundwave** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:28 am

logpmess wrote:So when am I getting an example of someone dropping that much after a rookie contract?

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Derrick Coleman, Elton Brand.

Inner_GI · Post by **Inner_GI** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:29 am

logpmess wrote:So when am I getting an example of someone dropping that much after a rookie contract?

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Jermaine o'neal and Allen iverson dropped the year they got max contracts.

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Post by **IamQuailman** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:33 am

At least now there is the insurance to protect the potentials from that drop... through age 27.

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Soundwave · Post by **Soundwave** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:33 am

Pretty sure this is the exact reason we started offering Insurance.

Not sure why Insurance would be a thing in this league if "I have never in my life of sim league seen a young guy turn from b/b to g/g at 23 years old."?

Post by **IamQuailman** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:34 am

Corey magette got a super max at b/b in rfa. Went g/g next TC. Ask RPF.

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Post by **IamQuailman** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:38 am

Seriously, its pretty <expletive deleted> when you blame the player dying in TC on "shadow council" aka some people you have met a few times and others you have known for years outside of sim league. Maybe I'm reading too much into you mentioning shadow council, but it sure as hell came off accusatory.

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RPF · Post by **RPF** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:39 am

IamQuailman wrote:Corey magette got a super max at b/b in rfa. Went g/g next TC. Ask RPF.

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Damn Doug you always hurting me. I remember that greatly, went from most improved to most <expletive deleted>

Post by **IamQuailman** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:48 am

A few more: Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Lebron James all TC victims. Maybe didnt change colors, but the definitely got hit. Jerry Stackhouse is another one. The list goes on and on and on and on

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logpmess · Post by **logpmess** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:54 am

IamQuailman wrote:
logpmess wrote:I have never in my life of sim league seen a young guy turn from b/b to g/g at 23 years old. But that's life outside of the shadow council that "doesn't exist". Someone else document that happening to anyone else.....

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There isnt a "shadow council" anymore. Wig and 78 handle most of the inputting. Darth, scott and I help when we can (not that often tbh).

Have yet to hear of an example of these people's players get slammed as bad as the rest of the examples.

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Post by **IamQuailman** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:58 am

logpmess wrote:
IamQuailman wrote:
logpmess wrote:I have never in my life of sim league seen a young guy turn from b/b to g/g at 23 years old. But that's life outside of the shadow council that "doesn't exist". Someone else document that happening to anyone else.....

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There isnt a "shadow council" anymore. Wig and 78 handle most of the inputting. Darth, scott and I help when we can (not that often tbh).
Have yet to hear of an example of these people's players get slammed as bad as the rest of the examples.

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Go check out 78's thaddeus young. Formally y/b now y/g thanks to TC. Or ruben patterson when he was g/b with the Rockets and then got hammered to y/g in thr next TC. And wig has had Antonio mcdyess who got murked. Those are just off the top of my head.

Shit happens all the time man. If you think they are influencing the integrity of the league because they cherry pick people to Frye in TC, then maybe you should find another league where you can trust the people running it.

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Soundwave · Post by **Soundwave** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:12 am

I'm not even sure who we are talking about, but apparently he isn't important enough to spend 10 points on to insure.

logpmess · Post by **logpmess** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:12 am

IamQuailman wrote:
logpmess wrote:
IamQuailman wrote: There isnt a "shadow council" anymore. Wig and 78 handle most of the inputting. Darth, scott and I help when we can (not that often tbh).
Have yet to hear of an example of these people's players get slammed as bad as the rest of the examples.

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Go check out 78's thaddeus young. Formally y/b now y/g thanks to TC. Or ruben patterson when he was g/b with the Rockets and then got hammered to y/g in thr next TC. And wig has had Antonio mcdyess who got murked. Those are just off the top of my head.

Shit happens all the time man. If you think they are influencing the integrity of the league because they cherry pick people to Frye in TC, then maybe you should find another league where you can trust the people running it.

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78 just started inputting and he's the best example available? I'm not trying to make anyone get butt hurt. I have good relationships with a good portion of the league. I'm just calling out glaring discrepancies from the people that you named.

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Post by **IamQuailman** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:23 am

logpmess wrote:
IamQuailman wrote:
logpmess wrote: Have yet to hear of an example of these people's players get slammed as bad as the rest of the examples.

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Go check out 78's thaddeus young. Formally y/b now y/g thanks to TC. Or ruben patterson when he was g/b with the Rockets and then got hammered to y/g in thr next TC. And wig has had Antonio mcdyess who got murked. Those are just off the top of my head.

Shit happens all the time man. If you think they are influencing the integrity of the league because they cherry pick people to Frye in TC, then maybe you should find another league where you can trust the people running it.

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78 just started inputting and he's the best example available? I'm not trying to make anyone get butt hurt. I have good relationships with a good portion of the league. I'm just calling out glaring discrepancies from the people that you named.

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Well if 78 is the issue (btw 78, Happy Birthday), then you should take that up with him. Except he didnt even input anything today. And what other examples are you looking for? We have archived seasons to go back and look to til the heart is content.

Again, point fingers isnt going to solve anything here. Blindly accusing THE MAN isnt going to solve anything. If trusting the inputters is the problem, wig has implemented a way to enter your own DCs and TCs.

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Darth Vegito · Post by **Darth Vegito** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:54 am

logpmess wrote:

78 just started inputting and he's the best example available? I'm not trying to make anyone get butt hurt. I have good relationships with a good portion of the league. I'm just calling out glaring discrepancies from the people that you named.

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Damn we really doing this? Please name exact people you think you are cheating. EXACT NAMES. Why beat around the bush. You obviously have people in mind. Sounds like anyway.

That being said every one of us has had someone get smashed. Everyone has given tons of examples. Danny Granger was SLAMMED in his second year went down to G/G which is why I gave him the nickname of Danny "shitty" Granger. Then the following year he made a jump and leveled back out. And please don't forget I haven't run shit on this game since I took the Sonics over. Only sim I've run in all those seasons was THIS LAST postseason in which i got whooped handily in the 2nd round.

Look I know it sucks when a player gets hit, it can ruin your entire season and set you backs entire years. We all get it. But THIS route here...accusing of foul play by "shadow council" which as Doug said hasn't existed for a while now...it's just not very becoming. Nothing more can be done to ensure the integrity of this league. And honestly what Wig did with the "nodes" allowing you to input your own stuff...I would have never done. He's kinder than I am.

I know this may sound like a broken record but integrity is one thing that is definitely NOT lacking in this league. You can say other things lack at times like kindness, or tact, or maybe inclusion. But not integrity. First off, when it comes to trustworthiness, Wig is Fryeing golden. The man doesn't even swear. He's a genuinely good person who would NEVER even consider doing anything dishonest with this league. THAT is a FACT.

Scott, Doug, Geoff, Tani, 78....All of whom I worked very closely with in this league in the past and present. I can say that when it comes to this league, integrity has ALWAYS been at the forefront of EVERY decision and every aspect. NONE of these guys would think about ever cheating this league. We all care about it a bit too much to ever risk anything that could harm it. I have very little to do with the running of this league anymore and I STILL only care about it's health and existence.

So I know you may be upset or whoever you are speaking for may be upset(Cause I have no clue who on your team got hit, your team looks like a team full of gods), BUT this route is never the right route. Not in this league cause every time any person ever goes here...well they are wrong before they even start. And just end up looking foolish. No one believes that people cheat in this league. If that was the case people would put time into it as they do. I WOULDN'T put my time into period. Sorry man, it's a random game with crazy random results. Put the torch and pitchfork away til November at least.

kucoach7 · Post by **kucoach7** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:54 am

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This is actually so common I wrote an article about it.

Inner_GI · Post by **Inner_GI** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:16 am

logpmess wrote:
IamQuailman wrote:
logpmess wrote: Have yet to hear of an example of these people's players get slammed as bad as the rest of the examples.

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Go check out 78's thaddeus young. Formally y/b now y/g thanks to TC. Or ruben patterson when he was g/b with the Rockets and then got hammered to y/g in thr next TC. And wig has had Antonio mcdyess who got murked. Those are just off the top of my head.

Shit happens all the time man. If you think they are influencing the integrity of the league because they cherry pick people to Frye in TC, then maybe you should find another league where you can trust the people running it.

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78 just started inputting and he's the best example available? I'm not trying to make anyone get butt hurt. I have good relationships with a good portion of the league. I'm just calling out glaring discrepancies from the people that you named.

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Why do you keep ignoring all the other examples posted here? Get over it.

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ballsohard · Post by **ballsohard** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:19 am

I can give an example. How about every mother <expletive deleted> on my roster ever.

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ballsohard · Post by **ballsohard** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:30 am

Larry Johnson (blue to green )
Clarence weatherspoon (blue to green)
Dennis Scott (purple to blue)
Kevin Garnett (purple pot to blue)
Josh Childress (green to yellow)
Tayshaun Prince (blue to green right after RFA)
AK47 (blue to green)

Just off the top of my head from my team. You should actually feel lucky this is the first time you get to feel angered by tc.

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