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More HOF Analysis - The Computer Hall of Fame

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As you all know, we have created a Hall of Fame where we vote on players we think deserve immortality within this game. Some of you may not know this, but the computer itself also has a built in Hall of Fame. You can view it by getting into your node, opening the game, and selecting Archive from the left-hand menu. From there, select Hall of Fame from the dropdown and you can see the players that the game thinks is worthy of recognition. I wanted to look into what players made it that didn't make it into our Hall of Fame and figure out why. I also found that there were a few players who we inducted to the Hall of Fame who did not make it into the Computer Hall of Fame.

As I posted in my last article, here is the list of players that we have inducted into our Hall of Fame. Below is a screenshot of players in the Computer Hall of Fame:

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The two Halls share 30 players in common. There are 18 players in the Computer's Hall of Fame that did not make ours, and four players that made ours and not the Computer's. A brief list/analysis of each player is below, as well as my personal opinion on whether or not they belong in the Hall of Fame

PLAYERS EXCLUSIVELY IN COMPUTER HALL OF FAME

1. Shareef Abdur-Rahim (Final Index Page) - Top 50 All Time in scoring. Career averages of 18.7/6.2. Won one title in Sacramento as the second best player on the team. Only 5 All Stars. Roughly a seven year peak of good, borderline great play. Very efficient scorer. Never nominated for our HOF. In my opinion I can see a case for Hall of Fame, but would most likely vote no.

2. Carmelo Anthony (Final Index Page) - 17th on All Time Scorers List, much higher than I thought. Career averages of 21.9/5.3. Thirteen straight years of 20 points per game. One championship as arguably the 2nd or 3rd best player on the Hawks. 7 All Stars. One Computer 6MOY. Very high efficiency. Never nominated for our HOF. I have to say, reviewing this changed my mind. I'd vote him into our Hall of Fame.

3. Larry Bird (Final Index Page) - Completely propped up by his real life stats. Two time all star. Never averaged more than 19 points a game in our league. Not a Hall of Famer by any stretch.

4. Carlos Boozer (Final Index Page) - 13th on All Time Scorers List, 11th on All Time Rebound List. Career averages of 20.8/8.8. 10 straight seasons of 23ppg or more. No championships, 9 All Stars. Never nominated for our HOF. I think Boozer has a real case for Hall of Fame as well.

5. Kobe Bryant (Final Index Page) - 15th on All Time Scorers List. Career averages of 19.2/4.4/3.2. Nine All Stars, no championships. Was always a good scorer but never seemed to have any other special facet of his game. Never nominated for our HOF, and I think that's the right decision.

6. Stephen Curry (Final Index Page) - 54th on All Time Scorers List, 12th on All Time 3 Pointers Made. Career averages of 21/5.9apg. Nine All Stars, one championship as the best player on the Warriors, won Finals MVP. No nomination in our league. Definitely pales in comparison to his real life partner, but that ring and Finals MVP may give him a real case. I'd probably vote no, but it's a coin flip.

7. Baron Davis (Final Index Page) - 72nd on All Time Scorers List, 13th on All Time Assist List. Career averages of 15.8/6.9apg, admittedly not great numbers. Six straight seasons of 20ppg or more. 8 All Stars, 1 championship as the best player on the Sixers, won Finals MVP. No nominations in our league COME ON SCOTT. The numbers are low, but just like Curry, his ring and MVP gives him a case.

8. Clyde Drexler - (Final Index Page) - Another case of a player propped up by real life, although Drexler has more of a case than Bird. One ring, but only two all stars. Averaged over 20ppg only twice in our league. Not a Hall of Famer.

9. Alex English - (Final Index Page) - Seeing as he barely scored 1000 points in our league, this is not up for discussion. He was drafted as a y/y. Not a Hall of Famer.

10. LeBron James - (Final Index Page) - 8th on All Time Scorers List. Career Averages of 21.0/5.6/4.4. Eleven All Stars, no championships. Never nominated for our Hall of Fame. He is overshadowed by both his real life counterpart and sim league Chris Bosh. But I do think he would get in if nominated based on his numbers alone.

11. Al Jefferson (Final Index Page) - 59th on All Time Scorers List. Career averages of 18/8.9. 6 All Stars, no championships. Never truly seemed to be a dominant force in the league. Never nominated for our Hall of Fame. I don't think he has a very solid case.

12. Moses Malone (Final Index Page) - Propped up by real life stats. 1 championship as contributing member of Hawks. Not much else to speak of. Not a Hall of Famer.

13. Dirk Nowitzki (Final Index Page) - 24th on All Time Scorers List. Career averages of 20.1/6.5. 7 All Stars, no championships. Always seemed like a member of the Hall of Very Good, 1300 career games but only 70 playoff games seems low. Nominated once, only received 29% of the vote. I think that was the right call.

14. Chris Paul (Final Index Page) - 41st on All Time Scorers List, 3rd on All Time Assist List, 1st on All Time Steals List. Career averages of 16.6/8.6. 6 All Stars, no championships. Never been nominated. I think his assists and steals prowess earn him a spot, even though Deron Williams being as good as he was tends to reflect poorly on Paul.

15. Gary Payton (Final Index Page) - 35th on All Time Scorers List, 8th on All Time Assist List, 6th on All Time Steals List. Career averages of 16.2/6.9. 7 All Stars, no championships. Nominated four times, never got in. I used to think this was the biggest crime in our league, but honestly the resume isn't as striking as I thought it was. I'm still not convinced it was a tragedy that he never got in.

16. Rajon Rondo (Final Index Page) - 6th on All Time Assist List, 3rd on All Time Steals List. Career averages of 11/8.1. 1 All Star, no championships. No nominations. This is baffling that he even made it. Maybe just because he got a bunch of steals? Absolutely not a hall of famer.

17. John Stockton (Final Index Page) - Propped up by real life stats, though he did make 4 All Star teams early on. Nominated once, got 47% of the vote. Not a Hall of Famer.

18. Dwyane Wade (Final Index Page) - 100th on All Time Scorers List, 35th on All Time Assist List, 41st on All Time Steals List. Career averages of 14.3/5.3apg. 5 All Stars, 3 championships, won Finals MVP once. The numbers aren't impressive, but the winning pedigree is. Nominated once, got 47% of the vote. I think he's worth reviewing again, but I understand if people don't think he's worthy of the Hall of Fame.

PLAYERS EXCLUSIVELY IN GM-VOTED HALL OF FAME

1. Reggie Miller (Final Index Page) - 87th on All Time Scorers List. Three years of real life numbers may skew averages. Averaged 20ppg or more 8 seasons in a row. 7 All Stars, no championships. I think he's a borderline case. Probably one of the weaker players to make the Hall, but not awful that he made it in.

2. Stacey Augmon (Final Index Page) - 34th on All Time Scorers List. Career averages of 22.5/6rpg. Averaged 20ppg or more 7 seasons in a row. 8 All Stars, no championships. I think he has a better case than Miller, and never really doubted his candidacy. Interesting that he isn't on the Computer list.

3. Jalen Rose (Final Index Page) - 53rd on All Time Scorers List, 25th on All Time Assist List. Career averages of 16.6/5.4. Averaged 20ppg or more 7 seasons in a row. 7 All Stars, no championships. Took four attempts to get in. Possibly the weakest member of the Hall of Fame. Honestly not sure how he got in, it may have been that he was purple at one point. Never was particularly great at one thing.

4. Paul Pierce (Final Index Page) - 40th on All Time Scorers List. Career averages of 19.5/5.1rpg. Averaged 20ppg or more for 9 seasons in a row. 7 All Stars, no championships. Took three attempts to get in. Also a weak candidate, in my opinion. Like Kobe, just a scorer and not much else.

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So, who in the first list do you think we should nominate this year? Any big time surprises? Let me know!
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I almost nominated Boozer last season. I think he takes a pretty tough hit for not winning a championship.
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I think Kobe and Chris Paul both suffered from transient GM issues. They could never be trained/insured. Not to mention, both came into the league prior to insurance and got hit a couple times before Insurance became a thing
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It’s obvious the computer dislikes real and PBSL Pacers’ players smh
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P.Ewing (90-93, 98) - R.Pierce (90-91) - S.Augmon (91-96) - D.Brown (93-96) - D.Strong (91-97, 99-02) - P.Pierce (98-05, 12-13) - D.Williams (05-17) - I.Shumpert (11-16) - D.Dedmon (13-18) - J.Williams (19-25, 31-32)
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IamQuailman wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:40 pm I think Kobe and Chris Paul both suffered from transient GM issues. They could never be trained/insured. Not to mention, both came into the league prior to insurance and got hit a couple times before Insurance became a thing
In Chris Paul's case- do you mean ones that were banned by you? :shock: :o :shock: :o :D :D :D :D
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ballsohard wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:53 pm
IamQuailman wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:40 pm I think Kobe and Chris Paul both suffered from transient GM issues. They could never be trained/insured. Not to mention, both came into the league prior to insurance and got hit a couple times before Insurance became a thing
In Chris Paul's case- do you mean ones that were banned by you? :shock: :o :shock: :o :D :D :D :D
he was one, yes. I forget who was the guy before him? And after 42? Was LHamilton the next Cavs GM or did we have someone between?
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