RFA Guaranteed Years

[42PhD]

I propose to modify RFA rules so they must include at least 2 guaranteed years. Right now, there needs to be only one.

Let me give a specific example of why this is true.

Cleveland was boldly accused of "antics" in the Draft thread where Cleveland defied the very laws of probability using the powers of truth and justice in order to get the first overall pick that they deserved so richly. If I'm going to be baselessly accused of antics, then why not antic it up?

Suppose I offered Troy Murphy a 2 year max with a team option in the second year. Given the deal he took, about the same vale but over 4 years, he might have taken my deal. If this kills him in the tax and he refuses to match, I can then play him for a year and waive his white ass, effectively circumventing the seeming spirit of the 2y rule, which, to me, is to allow some player movement to teams committed to paying those players while enhancing the value of draft picks by giving this reward to teams who draft, and manage their books, well. Only paying the price for one season feels like not enough for doing that to another team.

The truth is I would never do what Nick accused me of doing (but I did have a plan to totally Frye with Doug) so boldly, but the illustration is a good one of why this, I think, is a silly oversight of language.

For Doug, I had the idea to offer his guy a 2y (team option second year deal) worth what it would take to put Doug $1 into the tax, forcing him into the tax early, to lose Griffin on a 1y deal, or do some trades or cuts (only min he paid points for) if I won. Again, this is not what RFA is for. If I had to eat 2 seasons, then I'm putting my money where my mouth is, and if I want to wage cap war on them, I hurt me more in year 2, so it has to be worth it.

So, was this just an oversight? If so, let's fix it.

[NickMalone77]

Murphy was a Wizard last year in this anaolgy....

And what did I accuse you of other than what was done?

[42PhD]

Murphy was a Wizard last year in this anaolgy....

And what did I accuse you of other than what was done?

Never said he wasn't. I was cutting a promo on you using Troy and the Wiz as an example, using Doug as a jockstrap because you cut a promo on me in the draft.

Just building for CavaMania this year in the playoffs: Cavs v Hornets

[NickMalone77]

Murphy was a Wizard last year in this anaolgy....

And what did I accuse you of other than what was done?

Never said he wasn't. I was cutting a promo on you using Troy and the Wiz as an example, using Doug as a jockstrap because you cut a promo on me in the draft.

Just building for CavaMania this year in the playoffs: Cavs v Hornets

I can support this cause. We'll at least be mid-card status.

[42PhD]

Murphy was a Wizard last year in this anaolgy....

And what did I accuse you of other than what was done?

Never said he wasn't. I was cutting a promo on you using Troy and the Wiz as an example, using Doug as a jockstrap because you cut a promo on me in the draft.

Just building for CavaMania this year in the playoffs: Cavs v Hornets

I can support this cause. We'll at least be mid-card status.

How about supporting the closure of the Fryeing loophole, too?

[NickMalone77]

Murphy was a Wizard last year in this anaolgy....

And what did I accuse you of other than what was done?

Never said he wasn't. I was cutting a promo on you using Troy and the Wiz as an example, using Doug as a jockstrap because you cut a promo on me in the draft.

Just building for CavaMania this year in the playoffs: Cavs v Hornets

Yes but also isn't that kind'a of what the Team/Player Options are there for at the end of the deal since you can't just offer a one year deal during RFA.

You're basically proposing to hold onto a player for a minimum of two years moreso than just one.

[42PhD]

Murphy was a Wizard last year in this anaolgy....

And what did I accuse you of other than what was done?

Never said he wasn't. I was cutting a promo on you using Troy and the Wiz as an example, using Doug as a jockstrap because you cut a promo on me in the draft.

Just building for CavaMania this year in the playoffs: Cavs v Hornets

Yes but also isn't that kind'a of what the Team/Player Options are there for at the end of the deal since you can't just offer a one year deal during RFA.

You're basically proposing to hold onto a player for a minimum of two years moreso than just one.

Yes. That is right.

The rule seems to imply this is intent. However, the options on a 2y deal seem contrary to this intent.

It seems a simple oversight, and I propose fixing the potential problem so we don't have to deal with an actual problem later (when I do this to someone).

[IamQuailman]

No this has never been officially brought up and I'm glad it has. I 100% agree with this. There should be a minimum of 2 guaranteed years (no 2yr, team options). Player option is fine, IMO, because a player may not even decline it. It's out of the control of the GM

[42PhD]

No this has never been officially brought up and I'm glad it has. I 100% agree with this. There should be a minimum of 2 guaranteed years (no 2yr, team options). Player option is fine, IMO, because a player may not even decline it. It's out of the control of the GM

The last part can be debated. 2 guaranteed years has a simplicity that is appealing, but I'm not the coordinator.

Still, the basic premise seems to at least be sound. Let's see what the others say.

[Darth Vegito]

I agree with OP. Nothing more to say. I support correcting this.

[RPF]

I agree with Darth, sad but true

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[42PhD]

I'd like Wig to weigh in since he is the coordinator. That will also give me the chance to disagree with him.

[Darth Vegito]

I'd like Wig to weigh in since he is the coordinator. That will also give me the chance to disagree with him.

[WigNosy]

I would agree that a 2-year deal with a team option is a virtual 1-year deal and undercuts the purpose of RFA deals being at least 2 years in length.

I would prefer not to allow a 2-year player option because if the player declines, the contract falls off the books prior to the next season's RFA period - since all RFAs are under a trade moratorium until AFTER the next season's RFA period, this allows teams to occasionally get out from under salary early.

So I would suggest a minor tweak to the RFA contract restrictions, thus:

2 year deals must have both years guaranteed
3-5 year deals may have an option year (either team or player)

[IamQuailman]

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[42PhD]

This is essentially my proposal. Minimum 2 years guaranteed is the short, clear statement to me.

[RPF]

i like it