2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

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2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by JNR » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:37 pm

NEW RULE: YOU WILL RECEIVE 1 POINT FOR NOMINATING SOMEONE FOR THE HALL OF FAME. IF THE PLAYER YOU NOMINATE GETS VOTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME, YOU GET ANOTHER POINT.

Welcome to the call for nominees to the People’s Basketball Sim League Hall of Fame. The rules are simple. Nominate a player you think deserves to be mentioned among the greatest players to play in this league. Championships, all-star appearances, funny picture blogs: all of these things could mean enough to warrant a nomination. Each GM is allowed one nomination. There’s only one requirement: the player has to be retired from the PBSL. There is no time restriction on retirement – as soon as a player retires, they are eligible for the HOF.

So what’s to stop you from just sending Pavel Podkolzine to the Hall of Fame because you like his name? Well, first of all, he’s not retired yet, so you’re clearly not paying attention. But what else is going to stop you? I am.

I will review the nominations and put out a ballot of those we think qualify to be elected to the Hall. And then you vote on those players to see if they get enshrined.

-Nominees on the ballot with over 75% yes votes get into the HOF
-Nominees on the ballot with over 50% yes votes (but under 75%) are automatically considered for next year's ballot ("free" nomination that doesn't cost any owner a yearly nomination).

Nominations open now and will stay open until the end of the season. The ballot will be released that weekend and voting will last until the season is over. Reply to this post with your nomination.

Below are the most recent retirees who are available for nomination.
6/22/2009 Mavericks PF Marcus Camby retires
6/22/2009 Jazz PG Jason Kidd retires
6/22/2009 Jazz C Alonzo Mourning retires
Here are the retirees from the season before:
6/16/2008 Knicks PG Bobby Jackson retires
6/16/2008 Mavericks C Theo Ratliff retires
Here are notable free agents who retired:
Gary Payton
Doug Christie
Jim Jackson
Eddie Jones
Juwan Howard
Grant Hill
Steve Smith got over 50% of the vote last year and is automatically up for a revote. I will post his poll after the season along with any other candidates we may have.

NEW RULE: YOU WILL RECEIVE 1 POINT FOR NOMINATING SOMEONE FOR THE HALL OF FAME. IF THE PLAYER YOU NOMINATE GETS VOTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME, YOU GET ANOTHER POINT.
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by ballsohard » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:45 pm

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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by 78# » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:59 pm

Advocating to speak against Kidd's nomination.
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by IamQuailman » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:56 pm

Gary Payton is an interesting case. He was a rookie player from the inaugural league creation draft. He started his career with the Heat and really had one of the brightest futures. He was paired in his second season with Dikembe Mutombo. In his third year, he was pair with other star players like Rex Chapman and fellow Hall-Of-Fame nominee Jim Jackson. He was eventually paired with Hakeem Olajuwon. Sadly, though none of these teams really made any waves in the sense of championships. However, let's look at the Glove's total body of work.

Total All-Star Appearances: 7
Total All-League First Team: 1
Total All-League Second Team: 5
Total All-League Third Team: 1
Total All-Defensive First Team: 3
Total All-Defensive Second Team: 1
Total Steals Leader: 2

That's 7 time All-Star. 7 time All-League. 4 time All-Defense. This guy was a league great and a staple amongst the conversation for top 10 (maybe even 5?) player in the league for the longest time. In a league where PG play is hard to come by, this fella never averaged less than 7.5 assists/game until his 12th season (avg'd 7.0). On top of that, in his 7th season, his scoring finally caught up with his incredible assist ability, finally nudging over 19ppg. But this guy was a pick pocket. He got in the minds of opposing guards, made them second guess that crossover just enough for him to swipe the ball away and score in the fastbreak. Look at Gary Payton and you see a guy who dominated the league as a floor general, but also dominated as a defensive force.

This man deserves your vote.
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by Conroy » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:26 pm

Alonzo Mourning may be remembered as one of the greatest defensive centers of all-time. I'm ready to remove the defensive part and just say he may be one of the best centers period of all-time. His list of accomplishiments is long and here they are:

Total Player of the Game: 354
Total Player of the Week: 36
Total Player of the Month: 11
Total All-Star Appearances: 11
Total All-League First Team: 1
Total All-League Second Team: 3
Total All-League Third Team: 4
Total All-Defensive First Team: 3
Total All-Defensive Second Team: 3
Total Playoff MVP: 2
Total Defensive Player of the Year: 1
Total Championships: 2
Total Scoring Leader: 1
Total Rebounds Leader: 1
Total Blocks Leader: 6

Alonzo Mourning was the de facto second pick behind Shaq in 1992, a prize for sure, but thought of well behind Shaq. People may have even been looking past him after Shaq was taken into next years draft when Chris Webber would eventually be taken #1 in the 1993 draft. But Alonzo Mourning has two rings (and 5 NBA Finals appearances in 6 years), when those two combined have zero rings. Alonzo was an all-league defender but even in 1998 when the Celtics essentially had their entire team expire and Alonzo was the focal point of the offense all he did was go out and win the scoring title. He was the ultimate teammate, and the foundation upon which the Celtics built their franchise. He had at least a PER of 25 for his first 11 years in the league. Defense can be measured in blocks, which he led the league in 6 times, but he also anchored the best defense in the league (using Team Defensive Efficiency) three times.
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Post by 78# » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:53 pm

I nominate Logmessi for placeholder for Jimmy Jackson
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by logpmess » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:08 am

Drafted number 6 overall in the 1992 draft by the Miami Heat, Jim Jackson walked on to a team where he would never be the primary superstar. Being opposite Gary Payton meant that Jackson, who was primarily a scorer at Ohio State averaging 25 points per game with the Buckeyes, would have to find a new role. In his rookie campaign, Jackson went from G/B ratings to B/B ratings. He would go on to average 16 points per game. Gary Payton did not prevent the rookie from being the top scorer on this team. Shooting guard Rex Chapman had the scoring duties for the Heat during Jackson’s rookie year.

With an elite quickness for his size, Jackson could line up at either the shooting guard or small forward positions. He primarily played small forward early in his career. It took until his third year in 1994, for Jackson to start developing into a great player. In his third year, his color ratings went from B/B to B/P. He was slated at the small forward with Gary Payton and Rex Chapman at the guard spots, while Hakeem Olajuwon played center. Although he was the lowest points per game out of the stars, Jackson still managed to put up close to 18 points per game while still needed further development and being the fourth option on his team. That Heat team went to the playoffs for the first time in Jackson’s career.

Jackson is a natural scorer who developed defensively and on the boards throughout his career. With the loss of both Olajuwon and Chapman the following season, Jackson had to become a star. He led the team in scoring at 22 points per game. He finished his development finally reaching the rare P/P status in this league.

Throughout his first 8 seasons in the league, Jim Jackson did not miss a single game. It wasn’t until he was moved to Minnesota that he did not play in all games that season. He did average 20 points per game with the T-Wolves all while being the third option on that team for scoring behind both Chris Webber and Tom Gugliotta. From this point in his career, he started becoming a journeyman around the league. Jackson spent one season with Minnesota, one season with Seattle, two seasons with Golden State, and hopped around to a few teams after that. He had is best points per game average in 2002 with the Warriors when he averaged 23.4 points. He never shot less than .400% from the field in any of his 16 seasons.

Some of his other achievements throughout his career are as follows:
Player of the Game: 115
Player of the week: 2
Player of the month: 1
All Star Appearances: 2
All Star MVP: 1
3 point shootout champion: 2

The biggest thing you have to remember about Jackson’s career is that he was never really the top player on his team in any given season. He always had to fill his role appropriately and play well with others. Always the consummate professional, Jackson never caused any drama in the locker room all while pulling in $87,210,355 of hard earned cash.

Vote for Jim Jackson for this year’s Hall of Fame.
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by JNR » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:47 pm

Everyone who is going to nominate, the deadline is tomorrow night by 8PM.
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by JNR » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:47 pm

BUMP. It would be a shame if likely first-ballot HOFers didn't make first ballot because of a lack of nomination.
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Post by JNR » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:19 pm

less than two hours
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by ballsohard » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:52 pm

Jason Kidd was the best player on 2 finals teams that included future half of famer Kevin Garnett. Kidd provided some scoring, elite rebounding (for his position) and elite passing for anywhere. Jason Kidd although during his prime was in the era of OPenny still held his own in the age of OPs and somehow got rings. Vote Jason Kidd!
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Post by JNR » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:16 pm

Thanks Scott. 1 point to you.
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Post by IamQuailman » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:28 am

JNR wrote:Thanks Scott. 1 point to you.
Mine didn't count? :(
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by JNR » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:42 am

Oops. I didn't realize everyone edited in their responses. I take back my snarky asshole bit.

1 point to Quail, logpmess, and Conroy.
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by TheSyndicate » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:21 am

Conroy wrote:Alonzo Mourning may be remembered as one of the greatest defensive centers of all-time. I'm ready to remove the defensive part and just say he may be one of the best centers period of all-time. His list of accomplishiments is long and here they are:

Total Player of the Game: 354
Total Player of the Week: 36
Total Player of the Month: 11
Total All-Star Appearances: 11
Total All-League First Team: 1
Total All-League Second Team: 3
Total All-League Third Team: 4
Total All-Defensive First Team: 3
Total All-Defensive Second Team: 3
Total Playoff MVP: 2
Total Defensive Player of the Year: 1
Total Championships: 2
Total Scoring Leader: 1
Total Rebounds Leader: 1
Total Blocks Leader: 6

Alonzo Mourning was the de facto second pick behind Shaq in 1992, a prize for sure, but thought of well behind Shaq. People may have even been looking past him after Shaq was taken into next years draft when Chris Webber would eventually be taken #1 in the 1993 draft. But Alonzo Mourning has two rings (and 5 NBA Finals appearances in 6 years), when those two combined have zero rings. Alonzo was an all-league defender but even in 1998 when the Celtics essentially had their entire team expire and Alonzo was the focal point of the offense all he did was go out and win the scoring title. He was the ultimate teammate, and the foundation upon which the Celtics built their franchise. He had at least a PER of 25 for his first 11 years in the league. Defense can be measured in blocks, which he led the league in 6 times, but he also anchored the best defense in the league (using Team Defensive Efficiency) three times.
FWIW, Zo also made Conroy look like a brilliant GM for the better part of 10 SLOE seasons. :P
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by Conroy » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:29 pm

TheSyndicate wrote:
FWIW, Zo also made Conroy look like a brilliant GM for the better part of 10 SLOE seasons. :P
Too bad you didn't get KG earlier in his career, you could have fooled us for a lot longer than just the 2 seasons 8-)

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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by TheSyndicate » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:56 pm

Conroy wrote:
TheSyndicate wrote:
FWIW, Zo also made Conroy look like a brilliant GM for the better part of 10 SLOE seasons. :P
Too bad you didn't get KG earlier in his career, you could have fooled us for a lot longer than just the 2 seasons 8-)
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by TrayWithAnA » Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:44 pm

I honestly don't understand how some of these guys are still on the outside looking in. Smith already has 4 votes against him.

What am I missing on the expectations of a Sim League Hall of Famer?
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by JNR » Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:46 pm

I'd love to see dissenters give their reasons after the voting is over. Steve Smith is 100% a HOF lock to me.
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Post by WigNosy » Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:59 pm

Perhaps in the future we should make the ballots public. :p
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Re: 2009-10 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by TrayWithAnA » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:47 pm

JNR wrote:I'd love to see dissenters give their reasons after the voting is over. Steve Smith is 100% a HOF lock to me.
Honestly, we aren't creative enough to coordinate "first-ballot guys" and not "first-ballot guys" like in MLB, but that is what this smells like.

I think every last one of these guys deserves a spot or serious consideration. Unfortuantely, some guys may be shut out on their first attempt, or second, or completely embarrassed like one particular candidate.
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