Stewarding Ownerless Teams

[42PhD]

In the past few days, two teams have come available and were nearly instantly snatched up. Clearly, these franchises are a hot item (at least since I joined . . . the Cavs sat for a while, so . . . you're welcome). However, what sticks in my Fryeing craw is that the once proud Warriors were available prior to each of these teams hitting the market, and those owners sat on the sidelines waiting for another team.

Now, I'm not going to raise questions on testicular fortitude or vaginal abundance (that's for another thread), but, all kidding aside, owners should take the best team available. This helps them stay interested, they can actually learn because there's not a foot on their Fryeing neck that keeps from from seeing which changes make what kind of difference, etc.

Viewed in this way, it's a comment that the Warriors are simply not desirable, and we can look at the team and see that it's a project. We can blame prior ownership, but it's our league so it's also our fault.

I'd like to avoid this. Here are my suggestions for stewarding ownerless teams.

Goals

G1) To prevent unnecessary loss of value to the team . . . loss of a valuable RFA, unnecessary tax, failing to use cap space for points or acquire value talent in the short term so a new owner will be attracted to the team and be able to start his career sooner than later.

G2) To get active owners more of a chance to grow as owners and see the league from another perspective

G3) To not interfere with the power balance of the League in a large way

The are vague guiding principles. I think being against the principles is very different that being against the actual rules. Here are my draft set.


R1) I propose each team without an owner have 3 custodians: the commissioner, and 1 GM from each conference. Those 3 make all decisions for the team, like signing free agents, and they must do so unanimously.

R2) When it comes to dealing with other teams, the three decide, at their discretion and only when unanimous, to put a player or asset out for trade. People must bid to the commissioner who reviews the bids. The bids must all meet a minimum standard (set at least internally but maybe public for each bid), and there must be at least 3 qualifying bids. Then, the three decide to execute the deal. An example may be trading Rose or Christie for a seeming lotto pick. After the transaction, the bids are made public with a statement as to why the one was chosen over the other two.

R3) The 3 custodians handle media, points tallying, pick 'ems, all the league business, and act in the best interest of the team. The custodians gets League responsibility points for their actions. The team benefits from the actual media, winning, etc.

R4) No transactions can be performed between a custodian and the team for which they are a custodian, including bidding on that team's RFA.

R5) The DC is always recommended.


Special Proposal (can be handled in a separate vote and discussion) for the Current Warriors.

W1) With the Warriors in particular, since no action was taken after the owner left and it's been quite a while, I propose their tax bill from last season be considered for reduction since the team was abandoned with no intervention.

W2) I also propose the tax bill be settled up as much as possible so any RFA rights can be exercised, whether they will or not.


Let's discuss, firm things up (I likely left some good stuff out), then see about a vote to get the Warriors going. I'm betting someone will snatch them up quickly once we shine them up after letting them languish.

Note: I know the Warriors do not own their own pick, but since this transaction was made long ago, us sprucing up the team, if that even happens, will have no effect on that pick different than another owner may. Because of that, I feel this is fair to the owners of that pick, whoever they are.

Thoughts?

[IamQuailman]

I spoke to you in private about this already, and I feel it's a great idea. I like the idea of transparency of bids received for players after top 3 bids are received. Allows reasoning to be made for the trade decided on by the committee.

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[IamQuailman]

Also, ideally this would be something implemented prior to the trade deadline this season. So discussion on this would be highly appreciated and encouraged so that (if deemed appropriate) bids can be sent in accordingly.

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[logpmess]

I think a way to make it fair if anybody wants in (or back in) the league is to have the new (or returning) GM take the team that has been on the market for the longest amount of time.

It can be a simple page on the forum that gets an updated original post. I also think this should be the sign up thread. Also just another suggestion is that all the extra talk in the sign up thread should be cut. And have an announcement thread created each time a GM joins.

Lots of tangents. Sorry.


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[TheSyndicate]

100% agree with 42. I agree with Logan per no extra chatter in sign up thread and creation of an announcement thread.

I volunteer to be a Warriors steward from the West if we want to go this direction.

[42PhD]

I think a way to make it fair if anybody wants in (or back in) the league is to have the new (or returning) GM take the team that has been on the market for the longest amount of time.

It can be a simple page on the forum that gets an updated original post. I also think this should be the sign up thread. Also just another suggestion is that all the extra talk in the sign up thread should be cut. And have an announcement thread created each time a GM joins.

Lots of tangents. Sorry.


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It's a necessary, related issue to discuss.

I thought about this, but I backed away from it. In a sense, that is what the worst case scenario we are dealing with now is... People waiting for a good team. If someone else had to wait for the bad team to be taken, we might have even less participation. One of the best parts of the League is interacting with everyone but me, so we need as many people happy, excited people as possible. Going to the best team helps.

That said, fixing the "Warriors" kinds of teams (see also, Cavs) just eliminates the main issue... Undesirable teams.

That was actually the line of thought that led me to this. I started exactly where you were and looked at the worst case of it, and tried to address it.

If it were just the Warriors, I'd say no big deal, but 6m ago I got the Cavs, and they were in a similar boat.

Full disclosure: I waited a few weeks to take the team, but I agreed to take that team if no one else did. I waited because I was working full time plus new work (carbon composites), plus teaching 100 kids at Tulane (stats), plus taking 3 UNO classes (philosophy), plus selling a house, plus I was 5m into being a dad on top of normal life.

It was that, and I think my actions show I clearly don't give a fuuuuuuuck about a shiny team.

[Darth Vegito]

As someone who always tries to think of solutions to league problems, I think this is a great suggestion and solution to the "vacant team" problem that has always been there.

It requires some extra work but we all know that are gms who have the time and will volunteer for this stuff. Great idea 42.

Signed with a Scarlet Letter

[IamQuailman]

Anyone else interested in being a steward from the Eastern Conference?

[Conroy]

I'd like to Quail

[IamQuailman]

Okay! So TheSyndicate from the West and Conroy from the East. Looks like we got our committee.

[IamQuailman]

Does anyone OPPOSE this? If so, please speak up. Otherwise, this will go into effect after this sim.

[JNR]

My only potential issue with it has already been addressed by not allowing the committee to trade or have dealings with the team. I'm fully on board.

[WigNosy]

This is an excellent suggestion. Keeping ownerless teams from being totally rudderless is a good thing.

[42PhD]

This is an excellent suggestion. Keeping ownerless teams from being totally rudderless is a good thing.

Now, I object. Sorry.

[42PhD]

This is an excellent suggestion. Keeping ownerless teams from being totally rudderless is a good thing.

Now, I object. Sorry.

Kidding, obviously.

As an addendum, I think for maybe this sim if there are any things we left out, maybe WIG and I can suggest things just to keep things going right.

[Eazy P]

So basically this is like how David Stern was with the Hornets after Shin Left right?

[IamQuailman]

So basically this is like how David Stern was with the Hornets after Shin Left right?

Basically, except there will be complete transparency for reasons behind any move made (basketball reasons)