2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

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2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by JNR » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:36 am

YOU WILL RECEIVE 1 POINT FOR NOMINATING SOMEONE FOR THE HALL OF FAME. IF THE PLAYER YOU NOMINATE GETS VOTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME, YOU GET ANOTHER POINT.

Welcome to the call for nominees to the People’s Basketball Sim League Hall of Fame. The rules are simple. Nominate a player you think deserves to be mentioned among the greatest players to play in this league. Championships, all-star appearances, funny picture blogs: all of these things could mean enough to warrant a nomination. There’s only one requirement: the player has to be retired from the PBSL. There is no time restriction on retirement – as soon as a player retires, they are eligible for the HOF.

So what’s to stop you from just sending Arnett Moultrie to the Hall of Fame because you like his name? Well, first of all, he’s not retired yet, so you’re clearly not paying attention. But what else is going to stop you? I am.

I will review the nominations and put out a ballot of those I think qualify to be elected to the Hall. And then you vote on those players to see if they get enshrined.

-Nominees on the ballot with over 75% yes votes get into the HOF
-Nominees on the ballot with over 50% yes votes (but under 75%) are automatically considered for next year's ballot ("free" nomination that doesn't cost any owner a yearly nomination).

Nominations will be open until the end of the regular season. I will then create polls for the nominated players that will be open until the end of the playoffs.

Here are the retirees from this year:
6/20/2016 Trailblazers PG Kirk Hinrich retires
6/20/2016 Raptors SF Tim Thomas retires
6/20/2016 Trailblazers SG Tracy McGrady retires
Here are the retirees from last year:
Mavericks SF Richard Jefferson retires
And the year before:
6/16/2014 Warriors C Jamaal Magloire retires
6/16/2014 Hawks SG Manu Ginobili retires
6/16/2014 Pacers C Dirk Nowitzki retires
6/16/2014 Bulls SG Larry Hughes retires
6/16/2014 Hawks PF Tim Duncan retires *ELECTED TO HALL OF FAME*
Here are notable free agents who retired this year:
Kevin Garnett
Baron Davis
Rip Hamilton
Mike Miller
Rashard Lewis
Caron Butler
Luis Scola
Yao Ming
Joe Johnson
And free agents who retired last year:
Michael Finley
Paul Pierce
Kobe Bryant
And here are the other HOF nominees from the past few years who did not get in. Perhaps you want to nominate them again this year?
Jalen Rose
Chauncey Billups
Antonio McDyess
Ray Allen
Keith Van Horn
YOU WILL RECEIVE 1 POINT FOR NOMINATING SOMEONE FOR THE HALL OF FAME. IF THE PLAYER YOU NOMINATE GETS VOTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME, YOU GET ANOTHER POINT.
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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by NOLa. » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:27 am

Reserve Tracy McGrady.

Bittersweet moment.


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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by TheSyndicate » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:20 pm

Reserve KG, but if Ballsohard wants him, I'll defer to him...
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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by PaulyP » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:22 pm

I'm gonna do Pierce
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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by Bowtothebill23 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:49 pm

Back in 1998, Dirk Nowitzki was drafted #2 overall with aspirations to become perhaps the first elite stretch 4 of our league. He didn't disappoint. Dirk came into the league and immediately averaged double figures: an accomplishment he reached every single season of his career up until the last season of his career when he narrowly missed with 9.4 PPG. In Dirk's nomination, I would like to touch on 3 things that make his career Hall of Fame worthy: his ability to stretch the floor and overall compelling skill set, his overall scoring prowess, and his career accomplishments.

Nowadays we're seeing teams hoist 3's at an all-time rate. Players from all 5 positions can stretch the floor and hit at a near 40% clip. But back in the 90s, we didn't have much of a 3 point league. In 1997, the year before Dirk was drafted, the 76ers took the most 3's at 20.5 a game. 6 teams didn't even attempt 10 3's a game. Dirk's skill set was a breath of fresh air into the league and made him an offensive weapon that couldn't be replicated. Dirk's career 3 point numbers are solid yet unspectacular. He took 3.2 3's per game and hit them at a 35.7% clip. However, as we'll touch on in the next section, Dirk had 6 incredible seasons where he was scoring at an elite level. In those 6 seasons, he jumped to taking 3.7 3's per game and hit them at a 37.7% clip. He did become that stretch big he was touted to be coming into the draft. Additionally, Dirk made for a perfect #1 option for a team because of his unique skill set in having a B potential in handling. This meant Dirk turned the ball over significantly less than other great big man scorers in our league history. Dirk had a career turnover % of 8.5%. In comparison, Bosh's TO% is 9.6%, Kemp's 10%, Shaq's 12%, and Duncan's 9.3%.

Next, we'll look at Dirk's elite scoring ability. Dirk averaged over 20 PPG 8 times in his career. He shot over 50% from the field 5 times despite being a stretch big. In Dirk's prime, he had 6 straight seasons where he averaged over 25 PPG. In 2006 and 2007, he averaged about 27.5 PPG, good for 5th/6th best in the league. In each of those seasons, he shot over 50% from the field and over 38% from 3. Three times, Dirk had a TS% of 60% or greater, including both of his 27.5 PPG campaigns. Nowitzki is one of the all-time great scorers in our league, but we'll get to that soon. For now, I just want to be sure everyone understands how elite of a scorer and shooter Dirk was.

Lastly, we'll look at Dirk's overall career accomplishments. One thing I always look for in a Hall of Fame player is if they were ever near MVP level. A good indication of this is First Team All NBA. Dirk made 5 All NBA Teams and was First Team All NBA twice. He was a 7-time all star and won 11 Player of the Weeks. Perhaps Dirk's greatest reason for his Hall of Fame worthiness is his longevity. Dirk played 16 seasons and was incredibly productive in each one. Unlike some greats who develop slowly or spend their last few seasons on the end of the bench, Dirk scored never scored less than 9.4 PPG. Even as he started to decline and moved to the bench, Dirk won a 6MOY award as a member of the Clippers. Dirk reached a PER of 20 9 times, and only once had a PER below 15 after his rookie season. Dirk's longevity land him near the top of the all-time lists in scoring and rebounding. Dirk is the 12th all-time leading scorer in our league, and despite never being a fierce rebounder, Dirk still ranks in the top 25 in career rebounds.

Overall, Dirk combines longevity, a unique skill set, and a prime in which he was a top 5 player. With those 3 qualities, I ask that you consider Dirk Nowitzki for the Hall of Fame.
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Reserve Big Z of course.
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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by JNR » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:15 pm

Great nomination, Ben. You can claim one point.
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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by ballsohard » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:49 am

IamQuailman wrote:I'll take Baron Davis.
I'd like Baron please, I know you called it but he's kind of my guy if you don't mind.
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Post by IamQuailman » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:58 am

Rashard Lewis
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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by Xist2Inspire » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:19 pm

IamQuailman wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:58 am
Rashard Lewis
Mind if I take him bro? Hate to take another guy you called, but he's kind of a big deal to me.
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Post by Darth Vegito » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:02 am

I'm calling whoever Doug calls next.

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Post by Xist2Inspire » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:25 pm

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With an unprecedented blend of speed, height, athleticism, and sheer scoring ability, Rashard Lewis came out of nowhere and took the league by storm. At 6'10", Rashard was a tough matchup as a forward, but nigh-unstoppable as a shooting guard, a position that he played quite often throughout his prime. As one of the greatest scorers in league history, and as one of the premier players of his era, there is no doubt that Lewis is worthy of a spot in the Hall of Fame.

The Story
Drafted in 1998 by the Grizzlies at the tender age of 18, Rashard Lewis spent one season there before being traded to DC, where he immediately began to blossom, establishing himself as a true superstar with the first of many 20+ ppg seasons in 2002. 2002 also saw his full-time debut at Shooting Guard, a position he maintained for 3 seasons. By 2004 he had become a force to be reckoned with, leading the Wizards to a 63-19 record while scoring 26 ppg, shooting .515 from the field and .470 from 3 (while attempting 6 threes a game). But despite his emergence as a dominant player, his time in DC was nevertheless marred by playoff failures. Teammates who were passive in the postseason and slackers in the offseason, as well as a GM who was far better at teambuilding than gameplanning, resulted in repeated playoff disappointments for the Wizards. Finally, after 9 straight seasons in DC, Rashard was traded to Seattle, and his quest for a championship continued. He also upped his defensive skills to a new degree, finally gaining respect as more than just an offensive juggernaut. But despite his best efforts, a title continued to elude him, even when he was moved to Orlando. In his 17th and final season, he returned to DC to make it an even decade with the Wizards, and retired with the team where he made his mark.

The Stats
•From 2002 to 2010, Rashard averaged at least 23 ppg
•Has averaged 30+ ppg a season 4 times (2005, 2006, 2007, and 2009)
•Is one of only 6 players to score 60+ points in a playoff game (61 points, vs Nets in 2008)
•Is one of only 10 players to score 60+ in a regular-season game (61 points, vs Pistons in 2007)
•Holds the highest playoff ppg average in league history (44.4 in 2005)
•From 2002 to 2012, Rashard posted no lower than a 20 PER
•Has posted a 30+ PER 5 times (2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009)
•Shot at least .500 from the field from 2003 to 2009
•Shot at least .400 from beyond the arc for 14 of his 17 seasons
•Posted at least a .600 TS% from 2002 to 2009
•Is currently 7th on the all-time regular-season scoring list
•Is currently 11th on the all-time playoff scoring list, despite playing the 4th-fewest games of the Top 20
•Never posted less than a .500 TS% in his 12 playoff appearances
•Posted a 20+ PER 9 times during the playoffs
•Top 50 all-time in Steals and Rebounds (#45 & #46)

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•2-Time MVP (2006 & 2008)
•8-Time All-Star
•4-Time scoring leader (3-peat from 2005 to 2007)
•5-Time All-NBA 1st team, 1-Time All-NBA 2nd Team
•2-Time All-Defense 2nd Team

Elite scoring. Incredible ability for his size. Ruthless efficiency. Undeniable impact. All this and more are what make Rashard Lewis worthy of nomination, now it's up to all of you to determine if he is worthy of induction.
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Post by JNR » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:03 am

Great nomination, J2. You can claim 1 point.
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Post by JNR » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:52 am

Bump. Only have til Friday.
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Post by TheSyndicate » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:56 pm

Kevin Garnett:

Total Player of the Game: 356
Total Player of the Week: 14
Total Player of the Month: 2
Total All-Star Appearances: 7
Total All-League First Team: 2
Total All-League Second Team: 4
Total All-League Third Team: 1
Total All-Defensive First Team: 1
Total All-Defensive Second Team: 4
Total Playoff MVP: 1
Total Championships: 6
1995 PBSL Rookie Game Participant
1995 PBSL All-Rookie First Team
1996 PBSL Rookie Game Participant
1998 PBSL All-Star
1998 PBSL Most Improved Player
1998 PBSL All-League Second Team
1999 PBSL All-Star
1999 PBSL All-League Second Team
1999 The People's Basketball Sim League Champion
2000 PBSL All-League Third Team
2000 PBSL All-Defensive Second Team
2002 PBSL All-Star
2002 PBSL All-League First Team
2002 PBSL All-Defensive Second Team
2003 PBSL All-Star
2003 PBSL All-League First Team
2003 The People's Basketball Sim League Champion
2004 PBSL All-Star
2004 PBSL All-League Second Team
2005 PBSL All-Star
2005 PBSL All-League Second Team
2006 PBSL All-Star
2006 PBSL All-Defensive Second Team
2006 The People's Basketball Sim League Champion
2007 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
2007 PBSL Playoff MVP
2007 The People's Basketball Sim League Champion
2010 PBSL All-Defensive Second Team
2011 The People's Basketball Sim League Champion
2013 The People's Basketball Sim League Champion


I was going to start this, "You can't tell the story of the late 90's without Kevin Garnett." I was then going to change it to 'the late 90's, early 2000's' but really, you can't tell the story of any of the last 20 years of SLOE basketball without Kevin Garnett.

Here are his all-time ranks:
PTS - 6th
ORB - 9th
REB - 4th
Double-Doubles - 10th

One of the most impressive stats, is despite being an exceptional defender (en route to 5 all-defense selections) often guarding the other team's best player, he didn't send the opponents to the line almost ever. KG averaged an insane 1.3FPG over his career and has 165 less career fouls than anyone else in the top 14 in rebounds.

He made 7 All-Star Teams, won a record 6 rings for 4 different teams including being named Playoffs MVP for the Nuggets in 2007.

There are so many insane stats, that I'm not sure where to start or end - from a career PER of 23.7 (including an insane 15 year run with it never below 19.2), to his 5th most career playoff rebounds, his 3rd best ever playoff +/- (behind only Kemp and Penny), to his 7th most playoff steals as a big man.

He was never just an inside big, he could guard the perimeter, play defense, rebound at an insane rate, score inside and outside. I think the reason he took 3 GMs to the promised land that haven't been there since is his ultimate effectiveness and versatility. Plug him in any system, on any team, and you're winning playoff series. It's like having a star, role player, and glue-guy all in one.

I also think about what his numbers might look like had he not been mis-cast as a SF in Cleveland for his first 2 years, too. KG deserves the Hall of Fame, because without him, it's more like the Hall of Where's KG? Maybe more than the HOF, I think GMs miss him the most in his retirement after an extremely well-accomplished 20 years in the league.
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Post by JNR » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:54 am

Great nomination, Ryan. You may claim 1 point.
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Post by WigNosy » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:41 pm

I've got to nominate Mike Miller here. He's not an easy nomination, so let's get the bad things out of the way. He was only an all-star once during his 16-year career. He never won a title. He hung on about 3 years too long. Take a look at his player page below and you probably think, "what's the big deal, Wig?"

http://pbsl.ijbl.net/2015/players/player49.htm

Well, let's look at Miller's resume a little more closely. Miller came into the league BALLING, averaging 15 points and 5.2 rebounds per game as a rookie. For the next decade he was consistently above both of those numbers despite playing on some pretty bad squads (his teams were over 100 games UNDER .500 for his career). When his teammates sucked, Miller didn't. He finished with more career rebounds than Grant Hill or Kobe Bryant or heck, even Dikembe Mutombo. He has more career assists than Rashard Lewis or Dirk Nowitzki.

Ultimately, though, there was one thing he was born to do, even on the worst of teams - and that was shoot the basketball. Mike Miller ought to be an easy choice for the Hall for one very simple reason. Actually, for 2,537 of them. Miller knocked home that many three pointers during his career. Other players with that many include the following:

So that's the list. Nobody. That's right, nobody has more three-pointers in league history. For his career he shot over 42% from downtown. Among the top 100 three-point shooters of all time by total threes made, only seven guys ever hit a higher percentage (and of those, just two - Rashard Lewis and Tim Thomas - played in as many games). Mike was one of the purest shooters the PBSL has ever seen and has the record - more made threes than anyone - to prove it.

The best three-point shooter that ever stalked the sim courts deserves to be in the Hall of Fame; there hasn't been a sniper like him before or since. Give the man his propers.
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Post by JNR » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:45 pm

Great nomination, Wig. You may claim 1 point.
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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by NOLa. » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:41 am

Tracy McGrady, for me, will always be the face of the Sacramento Kings franchise. Widely regarded as one of the top, if not the best, players this league has come to know, McGrady was destined to be a terror on the court with his rare combination of size, athleticism, and a well-rounded complete basketball skill set. Listed below are several career highlights of Tracy McGrady:

- 4-time MVP
- 1-time Playoffs MVP
- 13 All Star Game Appearances
- 7-time All-League First Team
- 3-time All-League Second Team
- 7-time All-Defensive First Team
- 3-time All-Defensive Second Team
- 21-time Player of the Month
- 6th Man of the Year with the Washington Wizards

Tracy McGrady in his entire career only missed the playoffs 3 times in his 18 year career! That’s an 83% rate of making the playoffs in which he amassed a total of 183 games played in the playoffs, where he made his living putting up true star player statistics.
25.2 ppg
7.2 rpg
4.9 apg
50.8% FG%
33.4% 3P%

Again, those are playoff career averages for 15 total seasons. His dominance earned him a few nicknames such as T-Max, which was given to him early in his rookie contract because the league instantly knew he would be a max player, and McOP, a play on the Karl MalOP name from the previous face of the franchise. McGrady also contributed to many great debates among league GMs in which sides were split over if he was in fact OP. This in turn led to the #notOP hashtag used for many seasons.

Tracy McGrady played for several other teams besides the Kings, including: New Jersey Nets, New Orleans Hornets, Philadelphia 76ers, Washington Wizards, Houston Rockets and the Portland Trailblazers, where he ended his career still averaging a very solid starter’s statline. I’m certain these teams enjoyed the limited time they had with McGrady, but I want to give recognition to how much of an impact McGrady left on the Sacramento Kings:

Thanks to the new lists page by Wig, I was able to confirm what I thought true. Tracy McGrady leads the Sacramento Kings in every statistic as a King except for blocked shots (3rd behind Tyson Chandler and Marcus Camby). Besides blocking, he leads every other category.

We may never see another player like Tracy McGrady, much like Shawn Kemp, Penny Hardaway, Jason Kidd, Karl Malone and David Robinson. I’m grateful for the many seasons I had McGrady on my team. I remember being in my night class in college during my last semester when I got the #2 pick and knew McGrady would be there for me, and I remember eating at Parrans for my birthday nearly 2 years later when I traded him. When you remember where you were and what you were doing when you make these transactions, you know you have a memorable player, and I’m happy I had those moments with one of the best players of all time.



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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by JNR » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:41 pm

Great nomination, Tani. You may claim 1 point.
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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by PaulyP » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:16 pm

We are all familiar with the recent success of the Indiana Pacers led by future Hall-of-Famer Deron Williams and the longer tenured GMs will remember the dominance of the enshrined Stacey Augmon in the 90's --- but what about the era in between those two?

It was an era that was dominated by poor play and poor management. The team averaged 31 wins in his first 8 years. But during those bleak bleak times there was a lone shining light --- and that light was none other than one of the most dominant scorers the league has seen, PAUL PIERCE!

His career accomplishments are as follows:
7-time All-Star
2-time All-PBSL 1st Team
1-time each All-PBSL Second Team and Defensive 2nd team

His career averages:
19.5 points
5 rebounds
2.9 assists
46% FG
38% 3P%
23.2 PER


He has more career points (23,130) than Augmon (23,123), Steve Smith (22,124), Tom Gugliotta (22,066), and Reggie Miller (21,672). They are all in the Hall-Of-Fame.

He was one of the few true pure scorers of the 00's who will constantly get overlooked because he was never successful from a team perspective. I purposely did not nominate him last season because of the lack of team accomplishments (preferring to reserve 1st ballot status for the more upper echelon guys) but guys like Pierce should not be tossed aside even if their resumes are a bit one-dimensional. A vote for him is a vote for scoring and honestly who DOESNT wanna score?! Vote for The Truth H-O-F Class of 2016!
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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by IamQuailman » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:35 am

No Baron Davis... :(
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Re: 2016-2017 Hall of Fame Nominations

Post by JNR » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:38 am

Great nomination, Pauly. You can claim 1 point.
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