#SLOE: People's Basketball Sim League

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:25 am**

YOU WILL RECEIVE 1 POINT FOR NOMINATING SOMEONE FOR THE HALL OF FAME. IF THE PLAYER YOU NOMINATE GETS VOTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME, YOU GET ANOTHER POINT.

Welcome to the call for nominees to the People’s Basketball Sim League Hall of Fame. The rules are simple. Nominate a player you think deserves to be mentioned among the greatest players to play in this league. Championships, all-star appearances, funny picture blogs: all of these things could mean enough to warrant a nomination. There’s only one requirement: the player has to be retired from the PBSL. There is no time restriction on retirement – as soon as a player retires, they are eligible for the HOF.

So what’s to stop you from just sending Pavel Podkolzine to the Hall of Fame because you like his name? Well, first of all, he’s not retired yet, so you’re clearly not paying attention. But what else is going to stop you? I am.

I will review the nominations and put out a ballot of those I think qualify to be elected to the Hall. And then you vote on those players to see if they get enshrined.

-Nominees on the ballot with over 75% yes votes get into the HOF
-Nominees on the ballot with over 50% yes votes (but under 75%) are automatically considered for next year's ballot ("free" nomination that doesn't cost any owner a yearly nomination).

Nominations open now and will stay open until the end of the season. The ballot will be released that weekend and voting will last until the season is over. Reply to this post with your nomination.

FOR THIS YEAR ONLY, YOU ARE ALLOWED TWO NOMINATIONS. LOTS OF WORTHY PEOPLE HERE. ONE POINT PER NOMINATION.

Here are the retirees from this year:

6/18/2012 Magic C Calvin Booth retires
6/18/2012 Warriors PG Bonzi Wells retires
6/18/2012 Grizzlies C Antawn Jamison retires
6/18/2012 Nuggets PF Keith Van Horn retires
6/18/2012 Pistons SG Ben Wallace retires
6/18/2012 Hawks PF Antonio McDyess retires
6/18/2012 Magic PG Nick Van Exel retires
6/18/2012 Nuggets PG Anfernee Hardaway retires

Here are the retirees from last year:

6/20/2011 Jazz SG Ray Allen retires
6/20/2011 Nets C Shaquille O'Neal retires

Here are notable free agents who retired last year:

Allen Iverson
Vince Carter

And the notable free agents who retired two years ago

Shawn Kemp
Jalen Rose
Glenn Robinson
Zydrunas Ilgauskas *NOMINATED LAST YEAR, DID NOT RECEIVE 50%*

Gary Payton received over 50% of the vote and is automatically up for a revote. This will be his last vote. If he does not make it this time, he will never make it in.

YOU WILL RECEIVE 1 POINT FOR NOMINATING SOMEONE FOR THE HALL OF FAME. IF THE PLAYER YOU NOMINATE GETS VOTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME, YOU GET ANOTHER POINT.

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:40 am**

Placeholder for KVH

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:43 am**

You know what, i'll take Kemp. He's been inside me enough for me to do this.

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:54 am**

Jalen Rose

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Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:32 am**

I'll take Antawn Jamison.

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:35 pm**

Hall of Fame Nomination: Shawn Kemp

What is the DNA mix that you would use to create the best all time player the league has seen? I'm not sure, but there's one mold already out there, and that mold is housed in Shawn Kemp's DNA.

That DNA would include
10 parts athleticism
10 Parts Scoring
10 Parts Rebounding
10 Parts Interior Defense
8 Parts Stealing
10 Parts Blocking
and 1 Part Goat

(Replay of Kemp ounting the rest of the league as our league's Goat).

Throughout his time in the PBSL, Shawn Kemp was a Warrior in every aspect on the court, and of course, off the court as a member of the Golden State Warriors. The question always presented in a HOF vote is, can you tell the story of this league without this player? In short for Kemp, HELL NO. You couldn't tell the story of the league and the creation of the title "OP" which was also accurately be placed on King's HOFer Karl Malone. Let's just take a moment to look at Kemp's all time Awards:

Awards & Achievements
Season Award
Total Player of the Game: 586
Total Player of the Week: 86
Total Player of the Month: 29
Total All-Star Appearances: 11
Total All-Star Game MVP: 3
Total All-League First Team: 10
Total All-League Second Team: 2
Total All-Defensive First Team: 12
Total Playoff MVP: 2
Total All-Star Game MVP: 3
Total Defensive Player of the Year: 4
Total Most Valuable Player: 7
Total Championships: 2
Total Scoring Leader: 1
Total Rebounds Leader: 1
1990 PBSL Rookie Game Participant
1990 PBSL All-Star
1990 PBSL All-League Second Team
1990 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
1991 PBSL All-League Second Team
1991 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
1992 PBSL All-Star
1992 PBSL All-Star Game MVP
1992 PBSL Most Valuable Player
1992 PBSL All-League First Team
1992 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
1993 PBSL All-Star
1993 PBSL Most Valuable Player
1993 PBSL All-League First Team
1993 PBSL Defensive Player of the Year
1993 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
1994 PBSL All-Star
1994 PBSL All-Star Game MVP
1994 PBSL Most Valuable Player
1994 PBSL All-League First Team
1994 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
1994 PBSL Rebounds Leader
1995 PBSL All-Star
1995 PBSL Most Valuable Player
1995 PBSL All-League First Team
1995 PBSL Defensive Player of the Year
1995 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
1995 PBSL Playoff MVP
1995 The People's Basketball Sim League Champion
1996 PBSL All-Star
1996 PBSL Most Valuable Player
1996 PBSL All-League First Team
1996 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
1996 PBSL Scoring Leader
1997 PBSL All-Star
1997 PBSL Most Valuable Player
1997 PBSL All-League First Team
1997 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
1998 PBSL All-Star
1998 PBSL Most Valuable Player
1998 PBSL All-League First Team
1998 PBSL Defensive Player of the Year
1998 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
1998 PBSL Playoff MVP
1998 The People's Basketball Sim League Champion
1999 PBSL All-Star
1999 PBSL All-Star Game MVP
1999 PBSL All-League First Team
1999 PBSL Defensive Player of the Year
1999 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
2001 PBSL All-Star
2001 PBSL All-League First Team
2001 PBSL All-Defensive First Team
2002 PBSL All-Star
2002 PBSL All-League First Team
2002 PBSL All-Defensive First Team

2 time champions, 7 MVPs makes Kemp not only a lock, but should be a lock for a unanmous HOF entry. Now with that, lets look at some other all time stats he produced:

Total Points: 35127
Total Rebounds: 14096
Total Assists: 2980
Total Blocks: 3480
Total Steals: 1616

Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:00 am**

I'll take Shaq

Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:13 am**

It’s really easy to focus on offense, especially in this game. We’ve had guys average 40 points a game who have been HOFers or will go on to be HOFers. Right now the leading scorer averages 38.6 points. That’s eye-popping. And to us, that’s what greatness is. That’s who makes us take notice.

So why am I going to nominate someone who only averaged 9 points a game over his career? Simple. Because there are two sides to basketball, and few players in PBSL history have impacted defense the way Ben Wallace did.

Wallace was the centerpiece of the Atlanta Hawks teams that won two titles, and though other players scored more and Penny facilitated more, you could argue that Wallace was the engine of those teams. In the two years where the Hawks went 143-21, Wallace anchored the team to a top 2 defense one year and top 10 the other. In addition to those two rings, Wallace made the all-star team three times, averaged a double double in five seasons, and made 9 all defensive teams. He led the lead in blocks for two seasons, and rebounds for three. And for the greatest honor a defensive player can receive, the DPOY? Wallace won that trophy 5 times.

Wallace was never the type of player who you needed to gameplan for. It was easy for him to get lost in the shuffle among all the talent the Hawks had. And yes, his lack of scoring makes him something of an unsexy nomination. But the Hall of Fame is a place for recognition, and one of the best defenders of all time deserves to be recognized.

Ben Wallace for Hall of Fame.

Posted: **Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:03 am**

I can do Shaq.

Posted: **Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:57 pm**

http://pbsl.ijbl.net/2011/players/player508.htm

From the day he broke into the league, averaging 22 points, 5 boards, almost 7 assists, and shot 52% - and oh, yeah, made the All-Star team and the All-League Third team - as a ROOKIE, Anfernee "Penny" Hardaway struck fear into the hearts of every GM in the league except the lucky GM that had him on their squad. In his first six years in the league, playing for the Mavericks, he amassed five all-star nods, five all-league first team nominations, two rings and two Playoff MVPs, and lifted the Mavericks to the top of the Western Conference.

Then he went East when the Hawks put together their "super-team" and picked up where he had left off in the West. He collected a Slam Dunk Contest Trophy on his way to collecting the MVP trophy in his first year in Atlanta even though his scoring numbers suffered slightly. How did he become an MVP, you ask? By demonstrating the ability to play both sides of the ball, picking up All-League First DEFENSIVE team honors all four years he spent in Atlanta (to say nothing of four more All-Star nods, four more All League First-Team nods, and a couple more MVPs and Championships).

Even after moving to Orlando to help coltsguy take a failed shot at a ring, he continued to dominate, with two more all-star selections, two more first-team all-league selections, and two first team all-defense selections.

He finished with 29,987 points (only Kemp, McGrady, and Duncan have scored more in sim league history), 9,037 assists (only Nick Van Exel, Gary Payton, and Jason Kidd had more PBSL assists), and 2,483 steals (only Gary Payton has more in the PBSL). He's also the only contemporary of Shawn Kemp that could argue he had a more dominant career (not only could you argue it, it WAS a topic of discussion on the boards when he picked up his 4th ring).

Simply put, Penny was completely dominant on both ends of the floor for more than a decade. He is a deserving of a place in the Hall of Fame.

Posted: **Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:14 pm**

I'd like to do an updated post for Gary Payton. I understand should this not receive the point, but I think it's a borderline travesty that he's not in the Hall of Fame and is on the verge of missing out entirely.

Gary Payton was drafted with the 2nd overall pick in the Creation Draft. One of the youngest players in the draft, Payton was drafted as a guy who would one day be the best PG in Sim League for many years. Unfortunately, he wound up becoming overshadowed by big men such as Kemp, Mourning, and Gugs, while never becoming the best guard in the league due to the emergence of Penny Hardaway. Unfortunately, this fact has detracted from the fact that Gary Payton was once a P/P monster that was one of the 2-3 best guards in the league for about 5 years.

Payton was a frustrating guard for a few years. It took him 5 seasons to reach his first All-Star Game and 5 seasons to reach the playoffs. It took him 10 years to even win a playoff series. But, as he finally hit his prime, Payton became an elite 2-way guard in the NBA. For 7 straight seasons, Payton was an all star point guard. During that span, he was named to an All League Team 6 times and All Defensive Team 4 times. Not only was Payton putting up 24 points, 8 assists, and 5 rebounds a game, he matched that with 100/100 PRD/STL. He's arguably the most dominant PG defender of all time as he matched those perfect defensive stats with elite quickness and great strength and jumping for a PG. His defensive prowess was shown off as he led the NBA in steals twice, and 3 of those All Defensive Teams were 1st Teams.

In 1999, Payton, despite declining a bit in TC, put together his most masterful season. He put up his 24/8/5 stat-line to go along with a PER just below 30. This excellence was rewarded with an All-NBA first team nomination. But he was nowhere near finished. Despite the fact that the Heat were only a 7 seed in the playoffs, Payton led the Heat to the Eastern Conference Finals, winning two Game 7's on the road against a Celtics team with Zo and P/P Doug Christie and a Raptors team led by Chauncey Billups, Michael Finley, and Elton Brand. He did this by upping his production from the regular season.

Payton never was able to reach the championship. He was traded from the Heat to the Blazers in 2002, but at that point, he was 34, and his superstar days were over. He played in the league for 18 seasons, and his longevity is one of the most impressive feats in Sim League History. Payton averaged double digit points for 16 straight seasons. He averaged over 5 assists for 14 straight seasons. Lastly, he finished with a PER above 20 for 10 straight seasons.

Gary Payton was never able to reach the pinnacle of Sim League as a champion or as the best guard in the league. But Payton was a dominant 2-way player whose longevity and prime are both deserving of a Hall of Fame spot.

Posted: **Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:23 pm**

Jalen Rose:

Fella had a tumultuous start to his career, being drafted by the Bucks back in 1994. Size of a forward but skill set and potential of a point guard, Jalen was something special to start off with. He came in as the first y/b players in a draft file, and the Bucks knew they were going to need some time for him to grow. However after his sophomore season, the Bucks, antsy to make a splash in the Central again after rebuild year 4, packaged Jalen with other pieces to the Hornets for Tom Gugliotta. However, that wasn't long lasting, as the infamous "takeback" trade happened in January of the same season. Jalen came back to Milwaukee rejuvenated and ready to be a leader. What would happen over the next few seasons was a transformation that no one saw coming. Jalen led the Bucks to their first playoff berth in the 1996/97 season. However after some veteran leaders left the team (Terrell Brandon, Rick Fox), Jalen stepped up and took his game to a new level. After Brandon left in FA, Jalen, the consummate team player, agreed to shift his role from the SF/SG spot to PG. In 1999/00 season, Jalen ascended into the upper echelon of the league talent, where he and Shaq managed to lead the Milwaukee Bucks to their first Conference championship title. Unfortunately, he couldn't lead his team to the biggest prize... thanks to an ill-fated Shaq injury in the Finals. However, the next season, the Bucks were right back in it with Jalen leading the way, bringing them right back where they left off... only to lose to the Hawks in the Conference Finals. During these two years in Milwaukee, Jalen did everything for his team, PG, SG, SF. Ultimate team player. After the Bucks decided it was time to rebuild again, Jalen moved on to a rejuvenated Supersonics super-squad, where he continued to his reign of terror. Quickly shipped to the Warriors the next season, he dominated for 3 more seasons. But like all players in sim league... the dreaded "31" rears its ugly head and his skills began to diminish. He finished his career bouncing from team to team, including a season long stint with the Bucks (who had hoped he would sign with them to retire.... but he didn't). Damn Raptors.

Over the years, Jalen accumulated some league accolades; however in a league dominated by Penny's and Tracy McGrady's at the guard spots, attaining top level notoriety was a tall task. However in his prime(99-04), he averaged just under 24ppg and just over 7apg. He didn't shy away the glass, avg around 5.5rpg. He averaged 51.6% FG% (2004 season hit this total hard) over those 6 seasons, and averaged just over 50% FG% in his career.

His accolades:
Total All-Star Appearances: 7
Total All-League First Team: 1
Total All-League Second Team: 2
Total All-League Third Team: 1

He didn't rack up accolades like Kemp or Penny did, but he came into the league and really paved the way for transcendent multi-position players for years to come. With athleticism of 80 qkn, 96 str, 80 jmp, and 100sta with 6'8" size, he dominated point guards and shooting guards with his power and determination. Only one could guard him, and that man stopped him from getting to the NBA Finals for a 2nd time in 2001 (Penny).

Consider Jalen Rose, Hall of Fame.

Posted: **Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:35 pm**

IamQuailman wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:23 pm
Jalen Rose:

Fella had a tumultuous start to his career, being drafted by the Bucks back in 1994. Size of a forward but skill set and potential of a point guard, Jalen was something special to start off with. He came in as the first y/b players in a draft file, and the Bucks knew they were going to need some time for him to grow. However after his sophomore season, the Bucks, antsy to make a splash in the Central again after rebuild year 4, packaged Jalen with other pieces to the Hornets for Tom Gugliotta. However, that wasn't long lasting, as the infamous "takeback" trade happened in January of the same season. Jalen came back to Milwaukee rejuvenated and ready to be a leader. What would happen over the next few seasons was a transformation that no one saw coming. Jalen led the Bucks to their first playoff berth in the 1996/97 season. However after some veteran leaders left the team (Terrell Brandon, Rick Fox), Jalen stepped up and took his game to a new level. After Brandon left in FA, Jalen, the consummate team player, agreed to shift his role from the SF/SG spot to PG. In 1999/00 season, Jalen ascended into the upper echelon of the league talent, where he and Shaq managed to lead the Milwaukee Bucks to their first Conference championship title. Unfortunately, he couldn't lead his team to the biggest prize... thanks to an ill-fated Shaq injury in the Finals. However, the next season, the Bucks were right back in it with Jalen leading the way, bringing them right back where they left off... only to lose to the Hawks in the Conference Finals. During these two years in Milwaukee, Jalen did everything for his team, PG, SG, SF. Ultimate team player. After the Bucks decided it was time to rebuild again, Jalen moved on to a rejuvenated Supersonics super-squad, where he continued to his reign of terror. Quickly shipped to the Warriors the next season, he dominated for 3 more seasons. But like all players in sim league... the dreaded "31" rears its ugly head and his skills began to diminish. He finished his career bouncing from team to team, including a season long stint with the Bucks (who had hoped he would sign with them to retire.... but he didn't). Damn Raptors.

Over the years, Jalen accumulated some league accolades; however in a league dominated by Penny's and Tracy McGrady's at the guard spots, attaining top level notoriety was a tall task. However in his prime(99-04), he averaged just under 24ppg and just over 7apg. He didn't shy away the glass, avg around 5.5rpg. He averaged 51.6% FG% (2004 season hit this total hard) over those 6 seasons, and averaged just over 50% FG% in his career.

His accolades:
Total All-Star Appearances: 7
Total All-League First Team: 1
Total All-League Second Team: 2
Total All-League Third Team: 1

He didn't rack up accolades like Kemp or Penny did, but he came into the league and really paved the way for transcendent multi-position players for years to come. With athleticism of 80 qkn, 96 str, 80 jmp, and 100sta with 6'8" size, he dominated point guards and shooting guards with his power and determination. Only one could guard him, and that man stopped him from getting to the NBA Finals for a 2nd time in 2001 (Penny).

Consider Jalen Rose, Hall of Fame.

Quick edit/update in bold

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:33 am**

Antawn Jamison

http://pbsl.ijbl.net/2011/players/player43.htm

An 8 time All-Star, Jamison was a top 5 player of the 2000s decade. Drafted by former GM Darth Vegito with the #5 pick of the 1998 draft, Jamison took over the reigns from Penny Hardaway and led the Mavericks to numerous division championships, playoff appearances, and one NBA Finals appearance -- as the only #8 seed to ever reach the SLOE Finals.

Jamison also won a myriad of awards throughout his career, and was likely snubbed from an MVP in 2004. That year, Jamison was the league's scoring leader, and the Mavs went on to win the 59 games and the #Midbest Division. Tracy McGrady of the Kings ended up winning the MVP award. It's hard to argue against the OP superstar, but Jamison deserved it that year. He was a monster.

Additional accolades:

292 Player of the Game Awards
All-Rookie First Team
Most Improved Player
2 All-League First Team
1 All-League Second team
3 All-League Third Team

Jamison also played some great years with the Hornets, Trail Blazers, and Grizzlies. He never once averaged below double digits in scoring throughout his entire career.

His final career averages were:

22.7 points per game
7.6 rebounds per game
49% FG shooting
80% FT Shooting
39% 3 Point Shooting

One of the best scorers of his generation, Jamison had a stellar career and deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame. Vote "Yes" for Jamison.

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:32 am**

For your consideration: Shaquille O'Neal

Shaquille O'Neal burst onto the scene in 1992, averaging 24.1 points and 10.6 rebounds per game. He was named an All-Star and went on to average 27.8 and 10.8 in the playoffs. While the Rockets were swept that year, the league was put on notice. They could expect big things from the big man out of LSU.

With Shaq, it was often the shear magnitude of his accomplishments and skills that set him apart. Shaq had attribute ratings of 100 in Inside Scoring, Offensive and Defensive Rebounding, Post Defense, Blocking, Strength, and Stamina for 6 straight years, with some of those ratings staying at 100 for longer. When he retired at the age of 39, he still had a rating of at least 61 for all of those attributes outside of Stamina. It is no wonder he continued to be a contributor late in his career. He made the playoffs 15 times in his 19 year career and averaged a double double for the first 12 years of his career. He was named an All-Star 10 times, including in 2006 at the age of 35, when he carried the Blazers to an improbable playoff birth.

O'Neal was always known as a strong two-way player, being named defensive player of the year twice, being named to the all defensive team 6 times, leading the league in rebounding 4 times, and leading the league in blocks twice. Shaq holds the PBSL career records for rebounds and blocks. In 1997 he averaged 12.8 rebounds per game and 4.4 blocks per game (both ranking 2nd most all-time). He also helped out his teammates, averaging over 4 assists per game twice in this career.

Shaq made the finals once, in 1999 with the Bucks, only to be injured 18 minutes into the first game. The Bucks went on to lose in 5. Although Shaq was never a champion, he was one of the most dominant players the league has ever or will ever see and deserves to be a Hall of Famer.

Player of the Game: 379
Player of the Week: 20
Player of the Month: 7
All-Star Appearances: 10
All-League First Team: 3
All-League Second Team: 5
All-League Third Team: 1
All-Defensive First Team: 2
All-Defensive Second Team: 4
Defensive Player of the Year: 2
Rebounds Leader: 4
Blocks Leader: 2

http://pbsl.ijbl.net/2010/players/player619.htm

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:05 pm**

(SP)RAY ALLEN

Long time cornerstone of the San Antonio Spurs (11 years with them), Ray Allen became a staple (and a nightmare) for the Midwest Division. Along side some all-time greats in San Antonio, Ray Allen brought a whole new meaning to "make it RAYn", soon bringing the long drought of success in San Antonio to an end. This guys was a lights-out sharpshooting gun slinger; how appropriate for the lone star state. When he played on the court, he made sure that his opponents remembered the ALLENmo.

High level view first... career averages for shooting: 47% FG, 91.3% FT, 40.5% 3P. Think about that. Allen had 1 season where his 3pt shooting average was below 37%... his rookie year (32%). He was Mr. Reliable from the stripe too, only having 2 seasons averaging below 90% (but still above 84% in both).

Now let's look at other stats. Like all other aging players, his last few seasons hurt his career averages some. But let's look at his prime (99-05 seasons).
PPG - 22.9
RPG - 6.7
APG - 3.5
SPG - 1.8

Some pretty incredible numbers being posted here. And to do that with such efficiency at that. During that same "prime stretch" he posted a sub-22 PER once (2000 - 18.4 PER), but he also posted 4 24+ PER seasons. Career average? 21.3 PER.

Now let's look at some accolades.

Total Player of the Game: 159
Total Player of the Week: 4
Total Player of the Month: 1
Total All-Star Appearances: 5
Total All-League Second Team: 3
Total All-Defensive Second Team: 1
1996 PBSL Rookie Game Participant
1996 PBSL All-Rookie Second Team
1997 PBSL Rookie Game Participant
1997 PBSL Rookie Game MVP
2001 PBSL All-Star
2002 PBSL All-Star
2002 PBSL All-League Second Team
2003 PBSL All-Star
2003 PBSL All-League Second Team
2005 PBSL All-Star
2005 PBSL All-League Second Team
2005 PBSL All-Defensive Second Team
2006 PBSL All-Star

As you can see, there was a tough time in those late 90s, early 2000s dominated by elite guards (many of which were point guards...Penny, Baron, Nick Van Exel...), making the All-League team even more difficult to make. And unfortunately, he didn't win a championship. So there are knocks against Ray Allen in that regard. However, looking at his stats... looking at his personal numbers. He was a top-tier, elite player in the league for a very long stretch of seasons.

Oh, something that I think goes unnoticed a lot, especially with Hall of Fame, is reliability. Some players were prone o injuries and miss chunks of seasons here and there. In his first 8 seasons in the league, Ray Allen missed 7 games (all in 1997 season). In his first 10 seasons, he missed 25 total (7 in 1997 and 18 in 2004). That kind of reliability is something that GMs can only wish and pray for in a superstar. No Broken Legs or Broken Skulls here.

Spray Allen lit the league on fire with his efficient scoring, pinpoint accuracy from the 3, and overall on-court reliability with and without the ball in his hands on both ends of the court. This is why he deserves your vote for SLOE Hall of Fame.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:13 am**

Quit calling ray Allen spray Allen campaign ;

Spray Allen was a player GM Ian Quailman falsely compared to Ray

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:39 am**

Should be noted that Ray Allen led the San Antonio Spurs to 4 straight Western Conference Finals, with 1 Finals appearance, from 2001-2004.

At the height of the primes of some of the talents listed above and others, this is an incredible achievement in a traditionally competitive conference.

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:13 am**

Intro:
If we want the SLOE Hall of Fame to be about stuffing the stat sheet, and reward players that didn't win, but were surrounded by garbage their entire careers, then this nominee doesn't deserve your vote. Stuck on teams with volume scorers his entire career, Keith Van Horn never put up gaudy numbers, but his commitment to winning, his efficiency and number which rival an IRL Hall of Famer, and the longevity of his career make KVH worthy of your Hall of Fame Vote.

Winning: 02-07 - 6 Seasons; 3 Championships; 72% Reg. Season Winning Percentage
Between 2002 and 2007, if you wanted to win a championship, you wanted Keith Van Horn on your team. Together with future and current HOFers Kevin Garnett and Jason Kidd, KVH 131 out of 164 games for the Lakers en route to a Conference Finals Appearance and a Ring. Teaming up again with KG in Denver, the two led a resetting Nuggets team to back to back playoff appearances in 03-04 and 04-05, and then back to back championships in 05-06 and 06-07. Keith's versatility made him so valuable during these playoff runs, spending time at 4 positions while shooting an extremely high percentage from inside, outside, behind the line, and at the charity stripe.

Efficiency:Reg. Season Career: .487 .876 .373 TS%: .573 PER: 20.4 Playoffs:.489 .879 .349 TS% .566
At the SF position, his height and speed combo made him a nightmare to guard as he continually shot over shorter players. At PF, his speed allowed him to get to the rim and finish. He was a nightmare on offense because of that efficiency. In the playoffs, he was just as good if not arguably better.

Comparison:
So why wouldn't Keith get in? He was never an all-star, never a first teamer, never got the individual accolades. I honestly believe that had everything to do with the teams he was on (almost all of them had other volume shooters and ran a low pace game). But I researched real NBA players, and found a great comp. This guy immediately came to mind, and I wasn't sure what I'd find...

Now who would you rather have? Pretty close, right?

Player A is Sim League Keith Van Horn (as you might have guessed).
Player B is Real Life Scottie Pippen.

KVH is the Pippen of SLOE. Vote KVH.

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